Episode 1495 Scott Adams - WARNING - This Live Stream Will Change Your Opinion About Vaccination Risk

everybody it's Thai for the best oh not this time sorry don't I always tell you that this is the best part of your day but not today no for all of you for some of you I'm going to blow the top off your head for many of you you're going to get really pissed off if you watch this and some of you might die let me say that again in case you thought that was a joke watching this live stream could kill you literally because I'm going to say some things today that I do not intend because it would be unethical in my opinion I do not intend to change your mind about any medical decisions but the content will do that it's not my intention it's just I'm going to give you some truth about something that maybe you hadn't thought about and it will have the effect of changing some of your minds don't watch this if you don't want a cartoonist to accidentally change your medical decisions this warning is 100 real right it's not reverse psychology and that it's not a marketing trick I'm not trying to get you to watch it because it's naughty or it's you know provocative it actually could kill you all right do you hear that just just hear that as clearly as you can watching this live stream could kill you all right now I feel like I've done my ethical Duty right none of this is a joke none of this is a joke could kill you I'm not trying to that's certainly not my intention but we're just going to try to talk about some truth and see what happens all right so bail out now if you don't want to be any part of the vaccination persuasion even accidentally and I know a lot of you don't like that topic and I would invite you to come back tomorrow and I'll talk less about it but before that all you need to enjoy this to the maximum extent is a copper mug or glass tanker jealous of Steiner canteen jug or flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamines of the day the thing that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous sip it makes everything better except the coronavirus go ah all right now I'm going to be easing into the topic all right you'll know it when it happens and I'm gonna I'm gonna repeat the warning because people are joining and miss the original warning but I'll repeat the warning a little bit but first did you know that today Akira the dawn's album dropped featuring uh my vocals and if that sounds weird uh is not turns out it's a new genre genre a music in which uh Akira the Don takes samples from podcasts and uses that as the lyrical part and then he adds the musical stuff in the back and you would be amazed how well that works because the the podcast uh tend to be content that has some meaning because he chooses it for that purpose and it's not just mine I think Jordan Peterson's on there some other people um and uh take check that out you will be surprised right you will be surprised is is worth checking out only because well even if you didn't care musically check it out because it's a new genre and it's it's worth looking at just for that alone well Larry Elder got uh got hit by an egg by a woman in a gorilla mask when he was campaigning for the governorship California and as every smart person is asking today uh would this be covered by the news exactly the same uh if if he were a Democrat wouldn't all the news be you know it's a big racist thing it's a guerrilla mask he's black throws an egg at him somebody's saying in the comments that the egg missed well if the egg missed I guess the yolk is not on him all right um yeah you know this is one of those hypocrisy things that there's not much there's not much depth to the to the comment it's just every time you see an example where the news is clearly just propaganda because the way they treat these things is so different left and right that you just can't even take it seriously in any in any possible way all right uh here's a fake news alert fake news alert great news alert this uh comes to me via Twitter and Adam dopamine Adam points out that the breathless reporting on Florida's coven surge seamlessly shifted to stories about Mississippi and Louisiana hmm why is it that all that talk about Florida sort of just sort of softly while you weren't looking sort of just started talking about two other states because the surge collapsed that's why The Surge collapsed so whatever Florida is doing you know they had I guess three surges that were pretty bad but at the moment it's going pretty well so watch your fake news try to try to miss you know change your direction it's a little case of misdirection hey look at this hand look at this hand forget about this one yeah look at this one look at this all right um University of California professor is suing the school system um because uh he says he has natural immunity against covid but they're going to require him to get the vaccination anyway now how do you lose that argument let's say you're smart enough to be a professor at at Berkeley right so it's a you know top university if you're a professor at a top university and your argument is pretty Ironclad which is that if you have natural immunity you're you know you're better off than people who have two shots now how does he lose that argument I mean maybe seriously how do you lose it it feels like that's the most slam dunk argument anybody ever had no maybe it has something to do with you can't verify easily whether somebody has antibodies I can see maybe they'd require you to have an antibody test maybe that's not practical because how do you really know somebody had covet they could just say they had it and not get the vaccination so there might be some practical reasons but this guy's gonna lose his job for not being protected against covet when he is more protected than just about everybody on campus how does he lose this I mean he might he might that's the scary thing right he might actually lose this I don't know how you could lose it but he might um Chris saliza over at CNN he's an opinion guy and he wrote this sentence on an opinion piece it was kind of shocking to see it he said for the last two weeks or so I have been carrying around in Anger bordering on rage regarding the chunk of Americans eligible to receive the vaccine who continued to refuse it have you seen that I don't think I've run into anybody who would admit to having rage about unvaccinated people are you seeing that in your in your personal bubbles because I think you know my audience doesn't really uh have much Crossover with CNN I don't think but I haven't seen anything like that and I I'm pretty sensitive to hate you know you can spot it pretty easily I haven't really seen it but I'm I'm gonna guess there's some of it out there because I doubt Chris Elizabeth is the one angry person about this topic somebody says I haven't seen it in real life but you've seen it on social media yeah social media became the the place where the outrage goes to goes to thrive right uh all right so there's that let's talk about Biden's six-prong plan I'm not going to get into the details you probably looked at it already but one of the clever things is he's using OSHA uh to push his mandatory vaccinations for um Ford uh at least people in the government government workers and he's encouraging private companies to to have mandates as well um but OSHA is kind of a clever way to do it would I be complaining if Trump had found this clever workaround to get something done let's say it was something else you know not the vaccinations because that just becomes political as soon as you hear it but if I had heard that Trump used this clever workaround uh and I thought it was good for the country I don't know if I'd complain I probably wouldn't I'd probably say well yeah he did what he had to do cut through some red tape used to work around it was good for the country so I don't think the question about whether OSHA has or has not Authority just personally doesn't bother me that much I know he should and I get the argument that if you if you become a dictator and you just start making up laws and finding some rationalization for them instead of using the system could go to hell but I don't have the same rules during a pandemic if it's a pandemic I give my government a little extra power because I want them to have it if this is one of their little extra powers that they they took for themselves I say that's within the scope of things I'm I'm going to call acceptable during a pandemic anything that lasts beyond the pandemic we've got to talk about and if any of this happened outside the context of the pandemic I'd be completely opposed to it right but you throw in the crisis part and you could argue whether we're still in the crisis or not I think that that's a fair argument at this point but anyway I'm just telling you it doesn't bother me but I do see the red flags so if you're telling me Scott Scott you're not seeing the gigantic red flag here of the precedent assets I do see it but I just don't think that crisis examples are going to be as sticky as maybe you think but I see the risk all right Let's uh I have to give you my warning once again I said it in the title if you don't want to be convinced to get vaccinated turn this off right now and I I mean it and it's not reverse psychology right it's not a track if you don't want to be accidentally convinced to get vaccinated because that might happen I'm not going to do it intentionally because it's unethical for me to do that all right yeah so with my with my blessing those of you who don't want to be part of this please please sign off and come back tomorrow come back tomorrow but for those of you who stay I'm going to blow your head right off for some of you okay now let me start with this if I ask you this question most of you are reasonable people and I know that you made your decisions about vaccinations or not based on reason and risk and you thought it through would you agree that all of you no matter which decision you came by would you agree with the statement that you thought it through in the in the comments can you please confirm that you thought it through right no matter what it was you decided you thought it through and some of you came to different answers now second question second question if I were to alter and you accepted it one of your biggest assumptions could it change your opinion now I haven't told you what the assumption is yet right so so you can hold on that but if I were to change your most important assumption could it change your opinions just yes or no if I change your assumptions and you agree with that change you'd go oh yeah I hadn't thought of it that way if I could do that just just one assumption I'm not going to give you any new data no data will be presented I'm just going to change one assumption and if that big assumption was Central to your decision could you change your mind do you know what I'm doing to you right now all right I just primed you so I made you commit to a change in assumption would change your opinion if I had not done that it probably wouldn't because confirmation bias would kick in and even if I successfully changed your assumption you would just move to a different argument it wouldn't change your outcome because people don't really change their minds based on new information but I just primed you and if you said yes Scott if you change my most basic assumption I could I'm not guaranteeing it but that would be a condition which could change my decision now that you're primed let's talk about some things and I'm gonna I'm gonna ease you into it okay now remember if you're just joining us late if you don't want to be talked into getting vaccinated sign off now because it might happen right seriously sign off if you don't want to be talked into it it would be unethical for me to talk you into it without adding any new information but I think I will add a new understanding in a minute we'll get to it okay I'm going to get to it um there are a number of vaccinations that are already required as most of you know if you're a kid in the United States and you want to go to school the things you have to get would be included by seventh grade you got to get tetanus diphtheria pertussis booster you got to get your verticella that's the chickenpox to get in kindergarten you're you're required to have polio diphtheria pertussis your first doses measles mumps and rubella the MMR Hepatitis B vaccination and and chickenpox of course so those are all the ones that um you're required to get now how many of you and and the requirements vary by state so there's a big difference in in you know how they're mandated so I'm not making any argument about them being similar in mandate so you got that it has nothing to do with the the government mandate I'm just saying that they are mandated in Most states to go to school now apparently there are a number of people who find workarounds that they don't have to get vaccinated I heard there are 800 000 unvaccinated people in the country who don't even have these vaccinations so I guess you can get around it but that's the situation now here's your assumption speaking now to the people who have decided not to get vaccinated is one of your assumptions that these other vaccinations and by the way if you're anti-vaxx in general this has nothing to do with you if you're anti-vaxx for all vaccinations I'm not even talking to you that nothing I say will be relevant to you if you've said no vaccinations have a nice day you don't want to watch the rest of this there's no appointment all right if you thought the childhood vaccinations are okay because they've been around so long that the side effects are well understood and and the coveted vaccinations are newer so let's say your biggest reason for not getting vaccinated is that the traditional vaccinations have been around long enough that we would see all of the side effects and we'd have a really good understanding of the long-term risks because how could you possibly know the long-term risks of a vaccination that just came out this year it's not possible Right so you've got the the vaccination that comes out this year with completely unknown long-term risks would you agree how many would agree with me the statement that the coven vaccinations have unknown long-term risk everybody agree we couldn't possibly know it you can't know the future right now how many would agree with the next statement that we do know the long-term risks of the childhood vaccinations agree or disagree we do know the long-term risks of the childhood vaccinations go agreed disagree why would you disagree with that not really not really they've been around for decades what do you mean somebody says yes yes so I'm seeing your answers sure we know the risk now clearly we would recognize if if any of these long-term kid vaccinations if they were giving long-term problems you'd know about it by now right because you look at the the database of all the long-term problems uh what's the name of that database listen I'm forgetting what's the name of the database where they collect all of the long-term problems and not the fares because the vares is more of a short term problem but what what's the name of the database where they collect the problem say 10 years after the vaccination what's that called no not fairs theirs would be uh closer to the time you got the vaccination but let me give you an example I I guess I'm being unclear when I was 49 years old I got an exotic voice problem called spasmodic dysphonia was my spasmodic dysphonia entered into a database such that people could look at it and say Here's somebody who got the polio vaccination when he was six years old or whatever it was and now he got spasmodic dysphonia at age 49.

is that in the database it's got to be in the database it's in the database because how in the world could you know that my spasmodic dysphonia is completely unrelated to the vaccinations I got as a kid how would you know that without a database there's no data right now which database which database do they use to test the combinations of childhood vaccinations because we know that they test each vaccination extensively right I mean we all know that they do extensive testing on vaccinations but which database is it where they do they they look at not only the one vaccination but the combination where they test what if we give you three different vaccinations that are all required but we give them about the same time and you're six years old or whatever age which database is that in none right it's not in any database so your biggest assumption is that we know the risks of those other vaccinations we don't and let me tell you what expertise I'm bringing to this conversation medical nope scientific expertise nope am I bringing my virologist credentials nope I'm the creator of the Dilbert comic strip if you can find a better expert to predict the likeliness the likelihood that big corporations are gathering data 40 years after they needed to seriously seriously do you think that these big companies are really tracking this data long term come on all of you all of you people who said I don't want to get the the new vaccination because it's not as known as the existing ones you think you know the risk of the existing ones do you no you don't because nobody tracks it you're pretty sure somebody was tracking that weren't you try to Google it see if you can find any data that tells you 20 years after you got the I don't know chickenpox vaccination you you showed me the data that says 20 years after that that you can tell what's happened here's another problem here's another problem what happens if almost everybody gets the same vaccination how do you know what trouble the vaccination caused because everybody's vaccinated almost everybody right you can't tell let's take an example and by the way this is not this will just be an example for conversation I'm not making this allegation we know for example that the average rate the average levels of testosterone in men has been falling for decades right has anybody studied whether the the lower testosterone that seems to be all through the population could be caused by vaccinations I don't think that's the cause let me be very clear I don't think that's the cause but did anybody study it how about obesity we've got crazy obesity problem do we know exactly why because I've heard different opinions it's everything from fast food to too much air conditioning to too many video games to whatever but has anybody studied our uh weight loss or weight gain and whether you got vaccinated no now do I think that vaccinations cause weight gain later in life no I do not I have no reason to think that but today by studying how about my spasmodic dystonia probably 30 000 people who got it and you know since I've gotten it how many of them were asked about their childhood vaccinations and if they were asked they would all have the same experience so you wouldn't know you would just say oh everybody got vaccinated and some subset of them got this problem let me tell you what I know with complete certainty nobody is studying the long-term safety of existing vaccinations nobody so if you made your decision about this vaccination based on the fact that the other ones have been studied for a long time and this one hasn't you need to check that assumption because it's your main assumption and it's baseless it's baseless now I heard somebody say but Scott the the new vaccines at least two of them are a different platform different technology and we have much more experience with the older kinds of vaccinations and the new one just you know introduces this new kind of risk does it how do you know that how do you know it isn't safer it seems to me that the experts are quite unified on the question of if there are going to be side effects they happen quickly in other words if you've watched people for a year you pretty well have a good a good uh good idea but what happens after a year right because so we've watched all the vaccines for a year or so but have you watched them longer I doubt it and if you did did you do it right I mean even if somebody did study it would you trust the study and we know that half the studies are somebody's saying that the MRNA vaccines are safer now if you happen to be an expert in the field I could imagine that you would say to yourself well the nature of the way we're using this should be safer because we have a pretty good idea with this vaccine you know grabs onto and it's not grabbing onto things that look dangerous but if you could tell just by looking at it that it's not dangerous you wouldn't need to test it right it you don't know mRNA is safer or less safe it can't be known right you don't you don't know about looking at it I mean you don't just look at it logically and say well logically this should be safe you still have to test them because your logic can't get you safe enough right so if now let me do a little uh check on you here how many people until this moment believe that we did have pretty good information about the long-term effects of other vaccinations how many of you just had an oh moment and said oh my main variable is completely just a guess I'm seeing no's and yeses I see one oh not me nope me don't be a crab get the jab Charles says uh somebody says but this was immaterial to my decision yeah if for some of you that wasn't part of the decision so this wouldn't make any difference to you all right uh let me let me ask you one final question is there anybody here who was anti-vaxx at the beginning of this or at least anti-covet facts at the beginning of this live stream who when they realized that they couldn't know the difference between any of the vaccinations with long-term anything how many of you are reconsidering your decision not to get vaccinated based on just this I'm going to watch comments go by for a moment because I want to see now most of you should not be that would you know 90 should should dig in uh yes I am I'm considering let's say let's see just looking at your rephrase please uh rephrase this question the question is how many of you are are unvaxed and now reconsidering that because one of your biggest variables just fell apart all right a sad realization yes okay so I am saying yeses go by now remember my warning uh my warning was don't get your medical your medical decisions from cartoonists right and and I I would encourage any of you to unfollow me or stop following if you didn't like this because this is pretty much you know the kind of content that I have so yeah don't follow me if if you don't like this um and I'll say again that if you find out my assumption is wrong and there is some kind of Magic database I don't think so but if there is then reconsider um all right now when we're talking about vaccine um persuasion you convince me to be more skeptical all right all right that's it for uh today I just wanted to see if I would uh change any Minds it looks like some of you did change your minds generally persuasion does not you know change everybody right away a really really strong persuasion would get five percent of the audience that would be remarkable if you could swing five percent of an audience with persuasion you'd be the best Persuader of all time um all right uh uh well I'm looking at your comments and I see them no anecdotal evidence of existing vaccines being safe isn't a thing there's there's no way you could capture problems just by looking at people and saying oh this this guy's got a headache and he got vaccinated and this other guy doesn't have a headache oh but he got vaccinated too so you really couldn't tell all right that's all for now I'll talk to you tomorrow

everybody it's Thai

for the best oh not this time

sorry

don't I always tell you that this is the

best part of your day

but not today

no for all of you for some of you

I'm going to blow the top off your head

for many of you you're going to get

really pissed off if you watch this and

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let me say that again in case you

thought that was a joke

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literally

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today that I do not intend

because it would be unethical in my

opinion I do not intend to change your

mind about any medical decisions

but the content will do that

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it's just I'm going to give you some

truth about something that maybe you

hadn't thought about

and it will have the effect of changing

some of your minds

don't watch this

if you don't want a cartoonist

to accidentally

change your medical decisions

this warning is 100 real

right it's not reverse psychology and

that it's not a marketing trick I'm not

trying to get you to watch it because

it's naughty or it's you know

provocative it actually could

kill you

all right do you hear that

just just hear that as clearly as you

can watching this live stream could

kill you

all right now I feel like I've done my

ethical Duty

right none of this is a joke

none of this is a joke could

kill you

I'm not trying to that's certainly not

my intention but we're just going to try

to talk about some truth and see what

happens all right so bail out now

if you don't want to be any part of the

vaccination

persuasion even accidentally and I know

a lot of you don't like that topic and I

would invite you to come back tomorrow

and I'll talk less about it

but before that all you need to enjoy

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all right now I'm going to be

easing into the topic all right you'll

know it when it happens

and I'm gonna I'm gonna repeat the

warning because people are joining and

miss the original warning but I'll

repeat the warning a little bit but

first did you know that today Akira the

dawn's album dropped featuring

uh my vocals

and if that sounds weird

uh is not turns out it's a new genre

genre a music in which uh Akira the Don

takes samples from podcasts and uses

that as the lyrical part and then he

adds the musical stuff in the back and

you would be amazed how well that works

because the the podcast

uh tend to be content that has some

meaning because he chooses it for that

purpose and it's not just mine I think

Jordan Peterson's on there some other

people

um and uh take check that out you will

be surprised

right you will be surprised is is worth

checking out only because well even if

you didn't care musically

check it out because it's a new genre

and it's it's worth looking at just for

that alone

well Larry Elder got uh got hit by an

egg

by a woman in a gorilla mask when he was

campaigning for the governorship

California

and as every smart person is asking

today uh

would this be covered by the news

exactly the same

uh

if if he were a Democrat

wouldn't all the news be you know it's a

big racist thing it's a guerrilla mask

he's black throws an egg at him

somebody's saying in the comments that

the egg missed

well if the egg missed I guess the yolk

is not on him

all right

um

yeah you know this is one of those

hypocrisy things that there's not much

there's not much depth to the to the

comment it's just every time you see an

example where the news is clearly just

propaganda

because the way they treat these things

is so different left and right that you

just can't even take it seriously in any

in any possible way

all right uh

here's a fake news alert fake news alert

great news alert

this uh comes to me via Twitter and Adam

dopamine

Adam points out that the breathless

reporting on Florida's coven surge

seamlessly shifted to stories about

Mississippi and Louisiana

hmm why is it that all that talk about

Florida

sort of just sort of softly while you

weren't looking sort of just started

talking about two other states

because the surge

collapsed

that's why

The Surge

collapsed so whatever Florida is doing

you know they had I guess three surges

that were pretty bad but at the moment

it's going pretty well

so

watch your fake news try to try to miss

you know change your direction it's a

little case of misdirection hey look at

this hand look at this hand forget about

this one yeah look at this one look at

this

all right um

University of California professor is

suing the school system

um because uh he says he has natural

immunity against covid but they're going

to require him to get the vaccination

anyway

now

how do you lose that argument

let's say you're smart enough to be a

professor

at at Berkeley

right so it's a you know top university

if you're a professor

at a top university

and your argument is pretty Ironclad

which is that if you have natural

immunity you're you know you're better

off than people who have two shots

now how does he lose that argument

I mean maybe

seriously how do you lose it it feels

like that's the most slam dunk argument

anybody ever had no maybe it has

something to do with you can't verify

easily whether somebody has antibodies I

can see maybe they'd require you to have

an antibody test maybe that's not

practical

because how do you really know somebody

had covet they could just say they had

it and not get the vaccination so there

might be some practical reasons

but this guy's gonna lose his job

for not being protected against covet

when he is more protected than just

about everybody on campus

how does he lose this I mean he might

he might that's the scary thing right he

might actually lose this

I don't know how you could lose it but

he might

um

Chris saliza over at CNN he's an opinion

guy

and he wrote this sentence on an opinion

piece it was kind of shocking to see it

he said for the last two weeks or so I

have been carrying around in Anger

bordering on rage regarding the chunk of

Americans eligible to receive the

vaccine who continued to refuse it

have you seen that

I don't think I've run into anybody who

would admit to having rage about

unvaccinated people

are you seeing that

in your in your personal bubbles

because I think you know my audience

doesn't really uh have much Crossover

with CNN I don't think but

I haven't seen anything like that

and I I'm pretty sensitive to hate you

know you can spot it pretty easily I

haven't really seen it

but I'm I'm gonna guess there's some of

it out there because I doubt Chris

Elizabeth is the one angry person about

this topic

somebody says I haven't seen it in real

life but you've seen it on social media

yeah social media became the the place

where the outrage goes to goes to thrive

right

uh all right so there's that let's talk

about Biden's six-prong plan I'm not

going to get into the details you

probably looked at it already but one of

the clever things is he's using OSHA

uh to push his mandatory vaccinations

for

um Ford uh at least people in the

government government workers and he's

encouraging private companies to to have

mandates as well

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um

but OSHA is kind of a clever way to do

it

would I be complaining if Trump had

found this clever workaround to get

something done let's say it was

something else you know not the

vaccinations because that just becomes

political as soon as you hear it but if

I had heard that Trump

used this clever workaround

uh and I thought it was good for the

country

I don't know if I'd complain I probably

wouldn't I'd probably say well yeah he

did what he had to do cut through some

red tape used to work around it was good

for the country

so I don't think the question about

whether OSHA has or has not Authority

just personally

doesn't bother me that much

I know he should and I get the argument

that if you if you become a dictator and

you just start making up laws and

finding some rationalization for them

instead of using the system

could go to hell

but

I don't have the same rules during a

pandemic if it's a pandemic

I give my government a little extra

power

because I want them to have it if this

is one of their little extra powers that

they they took for themselves I say

that's within the scope of things I'm

I'm going to call acceptable during a

pandemic

anything that lasts beyond the pandemic

we've got to talk about and if any of

this happened outside the context of the

pandemic I'd be completely opposed to it

right but you throw in the crisis part

and you could argue whether we're still

in the crisis or not I think that that's

a fair argument at this point but anyway

I'm just telling you it doesn't bother

me but I do see the red flags so if

you're telling me Scott Scott you're not

seeing the gigantic red flag here of the

precedent assets I do see it but I just

don't think that crisis

examples are going to be as sticky as

maybe you think but I see the risk

all right

Let's uh I have to give you my warning

once again I said it in the title if you

don't want to be convinced to get

vaccinated

turn this off right now and I I mean it

and it's not reverse psychology right

it's not a track

if you don't want to be accidentally

convinced to get vaccinated because that

might happen

I'm not going to do it intentionally

because it's unethical for me to do that

all right

yeah so with my with my blessing those

of you who don't want to be part of this

please please sign off and come back

tomorrow

come back tomorrow but for those of you

who stay

I'm going to blow your head right off

for some of you

okay

now let me start with this

if I ask you this question most of you

are reasonable people and I know that

you made your decisions about

vaccinations or not based on reason and

risk and you thought it through would

you agree that all of you no matter

which decision you came by

would you agree with the statement that

you thought it through

in the in the comments can you please

confirm that you thought it through

right no matter what it was you decided

you thought it through and some of you

came to different answers

now second question

second question

if I were to alter and you accepted it

one of your biggest assumptions

could it change your opinion

now I haven't told you what the

assumption is yet right so so you can

hold on that but if I were to change

your most important assumption

could it change your opinions

just yes or no if I change your

assumptions and you agree with that

change you'd go oh yeah I hadn't thought

of it that way if I could do that just

just one assumption

I'm not going to give you any new data

no data will be presented

I'm just going to change one assumption

and if that big assumption was Central

to your decision could you change your

mind

do you know what I'm doing to you right

now

all right I just primed you

so I made you commit

to a change in assumption would change

your opinion

if I had not done that it probably

wouldn't because confirmation bias would

kick in

and even if I successfully changed your

assumption you would just move to a

different argument

it wouldn't change your outcome

because people don't really change their

minds based on new information but

I just primed you

and if you said yes Scott if you change

my most basic assumption

I could I'm not guaranteeing it

but that would be a condition which

could change my decision

now that you're primed

let's talk about some things and I'm

gonna I'm gonna ease you into it okay

now remember if you're just joining us

late if you don't want to be talked into

getting vaccinated sign off now

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right seriously sign off if you don't

want to be talked into it it would be

unethical for me to talk you into it

without adding any new information

but I think I will add a new

understanding in a minute we'll get to

it okay I'm going to get to it

um there are a number of vaccinations

that are already required as most of you

know if you're a kid in the United

States and you want to go to school the

things you have to get would be included

by seventh grade you got to get tetanus

diphtheria pertussis booster you got to

get your verticella that's the

chickenpox to get in kindergarten you're

you're required to have polio diphtheria

pertussis your first doses measles mumps

and rubella the MMR Hepatitis B

vaccination and and chickenpox of course

so those are all the ones that

um you're required to get

now how many of you

and and the requirements vary by state

so there's a big difference in in you

know how they're mandated

so I'm not making any argument about

them being similar in mandate

so you got that it has nothing to do

with the the government mandate I'm just

saying that they are mandated

in Most states to go to school

now apparently there are a number of

people who find workarounds that they

don't have to get vaccinated I heard

there are 800 000 unvaccinated people in

the country who don't even have these

vaccinations

so I guess you can get around it but

that's the situation now

here's your assumption

speaking now to the people who have

decided not to get vaccinated

is one of your assumptions that these

other vaccinations and by the way if

you're anti-vaxx in general this has

nothing to do with you

if you're anti-vaxx for all vaccinations

I'm not even talking to you

that nothing I say will be relevant to

you if you've said no vaccinations

have a nice day you don't want to watch

the rest of this there's no appointment

all right if you thought the childhood

vaccinations are okay because they've

been around so long that the side

effects are well understood

and and the coveted vaccinations are

newer

so let's say your biggest reason for not

getting vaccinated is that the

traditional vaccinations have been

around long enough that we would see all

of the side effects and we'd have a

really good understanding of the

long-term risks

because how could you possibly know the

long-term risks of a vaccination that

just came out this year it's not

possible Right

so you've got the the vaccination that

comes out this year

with completely unknown long-term risks

would you agree how many would agree

with me the statement that the coven

vaccinations have unknown

long-term risk everybody agree we

couldn't possibly know it you can't know

the future right now how many would

agree with the next statement

that we do know the long-term risks of

the childhood vaccinations agree or

disagree we do know the long-term risks

of the childhood vaccinations

go

agreed disagree

why would you disagree with that

not really not really they've been

around for decades

what do you mean

somebody says yes yes so I'm seeing your

answers sure we know the risk now

clearly we would recognize if if any of

these long-term kid vaccinations if they

were giving long-term problems you'd

know about it by now right

because you look at the the database

of all the long-term problems

uh what's the name of that database

listen I'm forgetting what's the name of

the database where they collect all of

the long-term problems and not the fares

because the vares is more of a short

term

problem but what what's the name of the

database where they collect the problem

say 10 years after the vaccination

what's that called

no not fairs theirs would be uh closer

to the time you got the vaccination

but let me give you an example I I guess

I'm being unclear when I was 49 years

old I got an exotic voice problem called

spasmodic dysphonia was my spasmodic

dysphonia entered into a database

such that people could look at it and

say Here's somebody who got the

polio vaccination when he was six years

old or whatever it was and now he got

spasmodic dysphonia at age 49.

is that in the database

it's got to be in the database it's in

the database

because

how in the world could you know

that my spasmodic dysphonia is

completely unrelated to the vaccinations

I got as a kid

how would you know that without a

database there's no data

right

now which database which database do

they use

to test the combinations of childhood

vaccinations

because we know that they test each

vaccination extensively right I mean we

all know that they do extensive testing

on vaccinations

but which database is it where they do

they they look at not only the one

vaccination but the combination where

they test what if we give you three

different vaccinations that are all

required but we give them about the same

time and you're six years old or

whatever age

which database is that in

none right it's not in any database

so your biggest assumption

is that we know the risks of those other

vaccinations

we don't

and let me tell you what expertise I'm

bringing to this conversation

medical nope

scientific expertise

nope

am I bringing my virologist credentials

nope

I'm the creator of the Dilbert comic

strip

if you can find a better

expert

to predict the likeliness the likelihood

that big corporations are gathering data

40 years after they needed to

seriously

seriously

do you think that these big companies

are really tracking this data long term

come on

all of you

all of you people who said

I don't want to get the the new

vaccination because it's not as known as

the existing ones

you think you know the risk of the

existing ones

do you no you don't because nobody

tracks it

you're pretty sure somebody was tracking

that weren't you

try to Google it

see if you can find

any data that tells you 20 years after

you got the I don't know chickenpox

vaccination

you you showed me the data that says 20

years after that that you can tell

what's happened

here's another problem

here's another problem what happens if

almost everybody gets the same

vaccination

how do you know what trouble the

vaccination caused

because everybody's vaccinated

almost everybody

right you can't tell

let's take an example and by the way

this is not this will just be an example

for conversation I'm not making this

allegation we know for example that the

average rate the average levels of

testosterone in men has been falling for

decades

right

has anybody studied

whether the the lower testosterone that

seems to be all through the population

could be caused by vaccinations I don't

think that's the cause let me be very

clear I don't think that's the cause

but did anybody study it

how about obesity

we've got crazy obesity problem do we

know exactly why because I've heard

different opinions it's everything from

fast food to too much air conditioning

to too many video games to whatever

but has anybody studied

our uh weight loss or weight gain and

whether you got vaccinated

no now do I think that vaccinations

cause weight gain later in life no I do

not I have no reason to think that but

today by studying

how about my spasmodic dystonia

probably 30 000 people who got it and

you know since I've gotten it how many

of them were asked about their childhood

vaccinations and if they were asked

they would all have the same experience

so you wouldn't know

you would just say oh everybody got

vaccinated and some subset of them got

this problem

let me tell you

what I know with complete certainty

nobody is studying the long-term safety

of existing vaccinations

nobody

so if you made your decision about this

vaccination

based on the fact that the other ones

have been studied for a long time and

this one hasn't

you need to check that assumption

because it's your main assumption and

it's baseless

it's baseless now I heard somebody say

but Scott the the new vaccines at least

two of them are a different platform

different technology and we have much

more experience with the older kinds of

vaccinations and the new one just you

know introduces this new kind of risk

does it

how do you know that

how do you know it isn't safer

it seems to me that the experts are

quite unified on the question of if

there are going to be side effects they

happen quickly

in other words if you've watched people

for a year

you pretty well have a good

a good uh good idea

but what happens after a year

right because so we've watched all the

vaccines for a year or so

but have you watched them longer

I doubt it and if you did did you do it

right I mean even if somebody did study

it would you trust the study and we know

that half the studies are

somebody's saying that the MRNA vaccines

are safer

now if you happen to be an expert in the

field

I could imagine that you would say to

yourself well the nature of the way

we're using this should be safer because

we have a pretty good idea with this

vaccine you know grabs onto and it's not

grabbing onto things that look dangerous

but

if you could tell just by looking at it

that it's not dangerous you wouldn't

need to test it right it you don't know

mRNA is safer or less safe

it can't be known right you don't you

don't know about looking at it I mean

you don't just look at it logically and

say well logically this should be safe

you still have to test them because your

logic can't get you safe enough right

so

if now let me do a little uh check on

you here

how many people until this moment

believe that we did have pretty good

information about the long-term effects

of other vaccinations

how many of you just had an oh

moment and said oh my main variable

is completely just a guess

I'm seeing no's and yeses I see one oh

not me nope me don't be a crab get the

jab Charles says

uh somebody says but this was immaterial

to my decision yeah if for some of you

that wasn't part of the decision

so this wouldn't make any difference to

you

all right uh

let me

let me ask you one final question

is there anybody here

who was anti-vaxx at the beginning of

this or at least anti-covet facts at the

beginning of this live stream

who when they realized that they

couldn't

know the difference between any of the

vaccinations with long-term anything how

many of you are reconsidering your

decision not to get vaccinated based on

just this

I'm going to watch comments go by for a

moment because I want to see

now most of you should not be that would

you know 90 should should dig in

uh

yes I am

I'm considering let's say

let's see just looking at your

rephrase please uh rephrase this

question

the question is how many of you are

are unvaxed

and now reconsidering that because one

of your biggest variables just fell

apart

all right a sad realization yes

okay

so I am saying yeses go by now remember

my warning uh my warning was don't get

your medical your medical decisions from

cartoonists right

and and I I would encourage any of you

to unfollow me or stop following if you

didn't like this

because this is pretty much you know the

kind of content that I have so yeah

don't follow me if if you don't like

this

um

and I'll say again

that if you find out my assumption is

wrong and there is some kind of Magic

database I don't think so but if there

is

then reconsider

um all right

now when we're talking about vaccine

um persuasion

you convince me to be more

skeptical

all right all right that's it for uh

today I just wanted to see if I would uh

change any Minds it looks like some of

you did change your minds generally

persuasion does not you know change

everybody right away a really really

strong persuasion would get

five percent of the audience

that would be remarkable if you could

swing five percent of an audience with

persuasion you'd be the best Persuader

of all time

um

all right

uh

uh well I'm looking at your comments and

I see them

no anecdotal evidence of existing

vaccines being safe isn't a thing

there's there's no way you could capture

problems just by looking at people and

saying oh this this guy's got a headache

and he got vaccinated

and this other guy doesn't have a

headache oh but he got vaccinated too so

you really couldn't tell

all right that's all for now I'll talk

to you

tomorrow