Episode 2040 Scott Adams - J6 Narrative Dissolves, Cartel Kidnaps, Persuasion Lesson, Cuomo Interview

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a cup of mug or a glass of tanker cello system the canteen joke a flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the young parallel pleasure the dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous separate happens now go ah so good well at the uh toward the second half of this I will talk about my interview last night with Chris Cuomo which was really interesting and I'm going to talk about the communication techniques and the persuasion techniques that are that you can see happening what I attempted to do is move the frame and then we'll talk about whether I did that that'll be later we'll talk about the news first um I tweeted just the other day that having Vivic ramaswamy uh in the in the primaries makes Trump a better candidate would anybody disagree with that at this point because Trump came out saying he wants to disband the Department of Education which Vivek had said just the other day now once vivik said it you know I'm sort of focused on it for a little while uh Trump kind of had to play catch-up didn't he you had to catch up so he had to at least match it and how happy are you about that you know I I always tell you that I like to look at things from a systems perspective the goal perspective would be I want this one candidate to win that would be a goal a system perspective is we are so much better off with Vivek in the debate you're not you know what nobody can say anymore Republicans are dumb or Republicans are too old or yeah they're they're not they're not reading the room or like he he just eliminates a whole bunch of arguments right or or even that uh conservatives you know won't back somebody who's a person of color you know even though he's clearly not making that a point of anything in this campaign which is of course brilliant which is of course why he's you know gets attention because he's brilliant like wouldn't it be nice to have somebody like in charge of the country who you legitimately said well I might not agree with everything but that guy's brilliant like just once right now this is the reason that I like Bill Clinton yeah I'm far less party-bound than maybe my reputation would suggest uh I like Bill Clinton because he was freaking brilliant and I didn't care who we banged on the side any more than I care what Trump did or did not do with Stormy Daniels completely irrelevant you know give me smart give me capable I'm good um so good job for Vivek making things just better you know no matter what happens I think he made things better and looks like that'll continue I would like to announce a death um I know that's it's a bummer but sometimes things die and it should be uh I think we should take a moment of silence for it but here's what happened uh you've probably heard this quote uh quote it must be true because I saw the video with my own eyes well that absurd belief was born around 1951 with the Advent of video and uh it had a long life but in recent years it started struggling with a bad illness and it finally died yesterday February 6 2023 and R.I.P rest in peace it must be true because I saw the video with my own eyes yes that's how all hoaxes are created making you think there's no other interpretation than the one you saw in the video if you learn nothing this year learn that all video is a lie all of it all video is a lie every time even if it's not edited wrong it's still focusing your visual persuasion on one point almost always to the exclusion of whatever the other point of view is because if you're looking at it you're believing it if you're hearing it you're like ah concept concept Retreat to my team views I didn't hear what you said but a video is is establishing the argument right all video lies all video lives all the time it can't do anything else I don't even know if there's a possibility for it to not lie I mean think about it it's always going to focus you on one thing at the exclusion or at least the diminishment of the other things it's always a lie at least in you know in part so yes we're talking about Tucker Carlson got a hold of the January 6 footage and his take and most of the people who are looking at it from the right their take seems to be that proves the January 6 videos that the so-called select January 6 committee showed to the world to build their case we're a disgusting lie and um although not illegal because I believe Congress and people do a fact check on me I believe Congress is allowed in terms of it being legal they're they're legally allowed to lie to you as much as they want are they not legally am I right yeah there's no law against it it's actually so so we watched Congress frame a bunch of American citizens you might call them patriots and I wouldn't argue with that we saw our own Congress frame them because they have this apparently some kind of loophole where they can destroy lives by lying in public in a way that an ordinary citizen you know couldn't possibly do the same thing now like I say it's not illegal but if it were illegal what would the penalty be pretty serious jail time wouldn't it now I don't think there's any practical way to make it illegal so I understand why it's not illegal because everybody's lying all the time like you couldn't even have a government if if you went to jail for lying everybody'd be in jail so I get why it's not illegal but if it were illegal this would have been 25 years in jail right allowing what dozens or hundreds how many people how many people went to jail for effectively trespassing a lot right if you send dozens or hundreds of your own citizens to jail and you know you're lying or at least you know you're showing things out of context it's probably that's that should be like a 25 years shelter does anybody disagree with that it's it's hard for me to think of anything worse than that that that's you know not actually murder or rape or something right pedophilia I suppose there are a few few things that are worse but it's one of the worst things I've ever seen one of the worst things I've ever seen unless unless does anybody have the suspicion that you just went from one misleading set of videos to another did anybody say themselves how do I know that Tucker's videos are giving me the right story ah how quickly did you buy into the The Narrative that the other narrative was completely wrong and that it was all a big ol op pretty quickly right pretty quickly because that's what agreed with your preconceived notions didn't it didn't it yeah you kind of expected that you'd see that the narrative had been false so you saw what you expected how much should you trust your own let's say rational census if you see something that totally agrees with what you thought was going to be true you want to be a little bit cautious here's the here's the thing I'd like to see I'd like to see somebody who does not agree with Tucker Carlson about anything have access to the whole the whole catalog give them a little time and then give them a full a hearing right this is the sort of thing where you need to hear the other side so now Tucker's shown a Counterpoint to the January six people and I think that was a huge service would you agree this I think what Tucker Carlson is doing somebody somebody said it maybe cernovich said it that it's uh maybe one of the most useful important things anybody ever did in journalism it's like right at the top of important things in my opinion so so what Tucker's doing is like real good work real good work but you as a smart consumer and I'll bet Tucker wouldn't disagree with us I'll bet if you were sitting here he'd say yeah that's true which is until you hear what other people say if they also have access to the full catalog of the videos just see if they can come up with a narrative that makes his narrative weaker I don't know if they can let me tell you how every hoax was done that fooled other people all right here's how those hoaxes were done here's a video or a series of videos here's the video how could you possibly interpret this any other way right that's how all the hoaxes are done I I can't imagine any other way to interpret this video there's only one way to interpret this video as long as they can get you to not imagine any other way to interpret it you won't you know you yeah you probably just won't imagine that there's any other possibility but I but I would say imagine there might be I kind of trust Tucker on this story so my if I had to guess I don't think anybody will be able to refute his narrative in any important way like there's always ways to pick at the edges of anything but I don't think anybody's going to take the heart out of his narrative but that's exactly what you say before you get fooled I can't imagine anybody doing that right so I so I'm actually describing myself in the same blind spot I'm warning you not to be it it's almost impossible to avoid it all right so let's talk about some of the details so it looks like the uh the Horn Guy the the Q Shaman right Q Anon Shaman they call them um the videos of him are so clearly indicating he needs to be released from prison like right now like right right now now if somebody else has other video that shows something we didn't see maybe but he was actually hanging out friendly in a friendly way with a number of uh I don't know guards or law enforcement what they were one of them opened a door for him it seemed like they enjoyed him I mean they weren't smiling or anything but it looked like they were either amused certainly not threatened certainly not threatened it was just a guy in a fun outfit walking through a hallway and they opened a door for him and they were walking with him at one point yeah when you see that video um again it's impossible to imagine that what that one person was doing was in any way a four-year criminal sentence like I'm not entirely sure what he got convicted of but wasn't it something like protesting or interfering with a official proceedings or something yeah and as somebody said I think it was Tom fitton said on his spaces there can be things that are technically illegal that are not appropriate to to prosecute would you agree that the world is full of things that are technically illegal but you do not get a better world by Prosecuting them now here's a perfect example of that did he do things that were technically illegal probably is anything he did worth Prosecuting in the sense that it would make the world a better place would it would it prevent him from doing it in the future I don't think that's a risk would it prevent anyone else from doing something similar in the future if it did I don't think it was worth putting him in jail right so you could be technically you know breaking a law and still the right thing is not to prosecute they're probably infinite examples like that all right uh so the the general uh tone of the uh Tucker's narrative I guess is that the evidence shows uh something like a patriotic protesters who clearly were not looking to hurt anybody everybody agrees there were dangerous people there who definitely had some bad ideas all of those people are condemned if they go to jail I don't care but that wasn't the character of the crowd and it wasn't the it wasn't the point of it it certainly wasn't a insurrection so the Insurrection narrative is dissolving and Tucker Carlson gets to be right again and every time he's right about this I'll tell you what I'm talking about every time he's right about this it pisses me off because for maybe a few years I would I would just shake my head when I heard him say it because it just sounded so just like team play narrative stuff and you'd always say that whatever the Democrats are accusing you of you can be sure that's what they're doing themselves here it is here it is that they were literally trying to um do something just incredibly uh disrupt disreputable it wasn't illegal but certainly unethical certainly on wise certainly bad for the country right now it wasn't exactly what what they're accusing people of but it the accusations did seem like a cover-up for their own behavior in a way so I mean I hated when Tucker keeps being right about that over and over again uh poor Josh Hawley who is there was one video of him seemingly you know skipping fast or running or something which uh the Democrats use to say that guy he encouraged things and then he ran away like a coward like a coward now I didn't see the um I couldn't see the video when I was listening to it but apparently that was debunked when you see the the greater context apparently it doesn't look weird or cowardly if you see the context surprise surprise a hoax it was a hoax within a hoax so the you know the first hoax being that it was an Insurrection obviously it was a protest not an Insurrection second host within a hoax within the hoax was that Holly was running like a I think that's what people said I only use that word because I think that was actually a congress person to use that word um and then that turned out to be a rupar at it as we call it where you cut out the context have we ever seen this first is this the first time we've seen a a hoax and then a hoax within the hoax have we gone to hoax squared it's sort of like the Russian egg of hoaxes oh what's inside here oh lovely but what's inside here oh another hoax but wait what's inside here oh and repeat all right so what do you do about all that what do you do about any of it do you think anybody will pay either politically or legally or lawsuits I don't even think you'd sue them right I think Congress is exempt from being sued as far as I know um so here's a sort of a side issue uh again Mike cernovich is going hard at Trump for having the opportunity to preemptively pardon the non-violent January sixes before he left office and he didn't do it which sort of it properly points out uh needs some explaining now that's that's my take my take is it needs some explaining because again I haven't heard Trump's argument can you imagine any argument that Trump would make that would make you happy like what what in the world could Trump say that would make you satisfied having not pardoned those people before he left he can't think of one right you can't even think of one all right suppose he had one suppose he had a good suppose he had a reason that's not obvious because I don't see any reason I mean the only reason that's obvious would be something like cowardice or not caring those will be the obvious ones but what if there's another reason don't you think there could be some other explanation that's just not obvious let me give you one all right I'm going to give you an explanation that I'm not I'm not saying is the accurate one all I'm doing is stretching your imagination a little bit right this is just an imagination stretcher not not a claim of Truth imagine being Trump and you're being accused of running an insurrection it looks like Trump had a private Army do you remember what people were saying it's Trump's private Army and all the Maga people basically are insurrectionists and they don't love the country they're definitely not Patriots they're all criminals and they're running a coup and then he pardoned some think about it just put yourself in Trump's shoes he's got to make a decision that's good for himself but also not damage the country not damage the country if you put me in that position and you say Scott the ethical thing to do the moral thing to do is to Pardon those innocent people right away would you agree that the ethical and moral thing to do was depart in those innocent people before he left office I would that that would be the moral and ethical thing to do however would it be good for the country would it be good for the country because it would confirm the false narrative that he had formed a private Army because if he just says I'm going to ignore the law I'm going to ignore the legal process now keep in mind he also didn't know how long they would be held or what they would be charged with exactly right do you do you think that Trump knew that today they'd still be in jail for basically nothing that matters nothing that matters no he couldn't have known how bad it would be but even still I'm going to agree hard with cernovich this is a hard agreement that he didn't put it this way but I think you would agree with the following statement that it was unethical and immoral frankly immoral to not help them when he knew that they were just good Patriots and I would have said the same thing if I had a bunch of Democrats have been picked up on sketching charges like in the in both cases it would be immoral to leave them there but number one he could not have known how bad it would get because he was only in office what two more weeks right but he could have suspected that it would Harden The Narrative the Republicans are nothing but an insurrectionist party and the the Maga movement has to be uprooted by its his roots but playing it this way again John if you're coming in late this is not spinning it this is just helping you imagine that no matter who it is whether it's Trump or Satan there might be something more to the story every time any of us have been fooled by a news story and that's all of us I remember the Covington kids thing fooled me for a little less than a day but it definitely fooled me we all have the same blind spot you can't imagine what you can't imagine does that make sense you you can't understand what you can't imagine and it could be just there's more to the story the the look at the quality of this comment Scott is a liar I'm a liar I've not even made a claim of fact all I've made is a claim that you should expand your uh your imagination you're having a little trouble with this NPC you can tell the NPCs there is like the first level I can't get past anyway so I do not defend uh Trump but uh just as I try to be consistent with every story if you haven't heard the other side if you haven't heard the other side you do owe that to Trump right you owe Trump his explanation because I think there's a possibility that he had to choose between destroying the country and doing something clearly unethical which is keeping them in jail or immoral pick your pick your turn with that choice I know it might have been the choice just saying all right um how about that lab League Theory I haven't talked about that too much you know the fact that now the the consensus of the experts is it must have come from the lab um but it doesn't feel like news to me like the news is that the government is is no longer denying you the obvious explanation but but doesn't it feel like we've known it for so long that the fact that the government had been lying or was useless in terms of helping us understand that feels like business as usual today doesn't it like the fact that the the government was lying or misleading once again once again I couldn't generate any outrage at all I've been trying for days to generate some outrage over the fact that we were denied you know the obvious explanation that came from the lab and I'm just it's now just Baseline government weaselness that I'm so freaking used to it it didn't even register in my outrage orb so I guess I need you know more I need more to get me outraged I mean it's an outrageous story I just I'm just so used to it here's a logic question um let's say there everybody knows there's some excess deaths that are continuing long after the pandemic Peak and there's a lot of question about what is causing the excess deaths um if the covet itself starts fizzling out or at least the you know the most dangerous forms of covert fizzle out let's say the hospitalizations go to practically nothing it looks like that could happen in the next I don't know six months or so but let's say if the excess deaths still continued climbing after the covet itself had gone away what would be the logical Theory somebody say vaccinations vaccinations now that that was the theory I heard but I want to test the logic with you at some point most adults are going to be vaccinated most not you necessarily they'll have at least two two boosters most and they will also have been exposed to covet so if you've got both the vaccination in you and the covid let's say one of those had a long-term effect let's say both of them stay in your body forever I'm not saying that's true but let's say it did let's say the spike protein stays in your body forever unless and does bad stuff and let's say that the covet maybe stays in your body and does some bad stuff or maybe either one of them weaken some key system in your body so that you don't die right away but that excess death just stays up there because people are just generally weakened from one or the other or from some you know third or fourth effect do you think that the decrease of covid with the increase of excess deaths or even the stings or even staying the same excess deaths do you think that narrows it down to the vaccinations because that would only make sense to me if the only kind of harm was short-term harm now most harm is short-term I think but everything about this virus well not everything a lot about this virus has surprised us so if you've got a surprising and engineered virus is it possible that it could be eating at your systems in a slow way and then either the vaccination or the covet because both of them have some long-term at least hypothetical risk is it possible that people could be dying at greater numbers in the future only because they had been so degraded by one or both of those things or three or four other things so you can't you get because I think the math still works I believe the math Works to keep excess deaths um even if covid goes down I think it does but I wouldn't bet my life on it because and by the way the the more likely explanation would be exactly exactly the theory that it's the vaccinations so that's just sort of a logic question whether there's any scenario in which um you could not narrow it down but it was definitely definitely be a strong strong signal that the vaccinations were a problem we'll see and apparently we won't know for sure for maybe until May all right so I saw this from the ethical skeptic tweets um you're in about four Americans kidnapped by a cartel in Mexico um that's War that's War how many Americans need to be kidnapped by a cartel in Mexico before its War one one carful yeah I think it was four people somebody says two are dead oh yeah I figured no surprise and you were dead um that's War yep that's War you you don't walk away from that that's War now do you think uh having Vivek ramaswamy in the race now makes sense yes because he said go into Mexico first try to work with the Mexican Government but if that doesn't work we take care of it ourselves Trump also said that Trump said it first which I think also raises you know vivek's bid so now you have two strong candidates one of them the one who's leading in the polls saying uh war with Mexico like actually invade just the cartels not the government yeah so uh these deaths should be the turning point if we're a serious country it should be the reason to vote uh Republican you know all of your other reasons to not vote Republican don't care don't care I'm a single issue voter if we can't fix this one thing like what's the point of a government you can't do this one thing just give me one thing and I'll vote for you Marcia Blackburn Republican has an idea on fentanyl she wants to increase sanctions on China because that's the source of the precursors I think we all know that even if China shut down the precursor business probably just moved to China or else moved to Mexico or someplace else some other country so I'm definitely in favor of this plan but it's not the end of fentanyl right it might make a difference it might make a big difference but it wouldn't be the m-defense so her idea is to increase the sanctions on China until they shut down their business now the way China games the system is they say we do make it illegal and if anybody does it we do pick them up and put them in jail but the criminals simply change the formula a little bit of the precursors and then it doesn't technically trigger the the law so as long as the Chinese government allows them to Tinker with the formula every time the law is specified it's like doing nothing right China knows how to stop it so that's why I'm in favor of of sanctions but here's what doesn't work uh doing the sanctions that you haven't announced like oh we're going to give you some sanctions because you've done this I don't like that I like putting it on a schedule I like publishing a schedule all right on this day we're going to do this if the fentanyl's still coming in which it will be on this day we're going to do this additional thing on this day we're going to do this additional thing and just show them the menu and you see that by the end it's full destruction of their economy now they can go as far down that list as they want to as long as we don't stop going right at some point they're going to say you know after three of the things on this list I don't want to see number six because this is starting to sting a little bit right but I think the entire the entire threat is useless unless it's completely mapped out on the schedule this is what we're going to do Tuesday this is what we're going to do Wednesday and then you got to do it right no matter how how brutal it gets the Matt Hancock story I don't know that story the Matt Hancock story is that ring a belt with anybody he's British okay um anyway so that's the start um have you heard about this is like the worst story in Iran uh for I guess there's all these poisoning attacks in girls schools over 50 schools and more than 400 school girls in 21 provinces across Iran have been poisoned in school like intentionally I guess it's obvious that it's intentional but they don't know who's doing it they assume you're the best guess is some religious extremist who doesn't like girls education which is pretty good guess but I can't even imagine that can you it's like it defies imagination it's like a level of evil that your brain can't I can't even rap inside around so you know this is this is one thing where I guess I can say I agree with the Ayatollah the Ayatollah says if they find who's doing it they're gonna they're gonna execute them and I hate to agree with Ayatollah but yeah that would be a big guess you need to execute whoever that is wow um president XI was getting a little more appointed about the America no surprise and he's he's saying directly in his speeches that the U.S is hurting China's economy and I don't know how much is the U.S hurting it with sanctions and how much is just the natural situation but here's some of the bad economic news for China no surprise China's exports fell seven percent yeah in the January to February period I don't know if that's a big deal could be seasonal I don't know what that's about uh extending a decline from private previous months okay that's even worse as Global demand weakened and imports dropped 10 percent uh China's exports the U.S plunged 15 percent there we go good work America yeah China's exports the U.S plunged 15 now here's something that you wouldn't necessarily know if you're not an economist or you don't study this stuff you don't have to take a hundred percent of anything to destroy it right the things have a Breaking Point and you know you don't have to get down to zero zero exports to America before China's in serious trouble 15 sounds like a catastrophe to me doesn't it to you a 15 decline in the in exports the U.S to me that sounds like a catastrophe like it's not it's not a end of the economy a catastrophe but what if it's 25 or 30 percent you know if it's 30 percent it's probably game over and we're heading in that direction now you know that's always hyperbole too have I ever used any hyperbole before is this the first time I think maybe I've possibly done that before I have like some vague memory where I've done that before but no it doesn't mean the child is going to collapse but it would be it would be a serious adjustment they'd have to make if they lost if if a U.S exports declined 30 percent 15 is pretty big all right who would like to hear about my interview last night with Chris Cuomo on news Nation only available uh initially on your cable If They carried it but now it's available on You.

Tube so if you go to my pinned tweet on You.

Tube today you'll get a link to the full interview and I wanted to talk about it but also give you a little bit of a sort of a lesson would anybody like a Media communication persuasion lesson because it's coming up all right but first let's go to the Whiteboard here here's my overview of what life is like for me in the in the center of a scandal there appear to be two very two very different worlds there's a real world like the one when I walk outside and everybody I see is kind and happy and they have genuinely genuine good feelings for other people I don't know what your experience is in life but I don't really run into any ugly people in terms of attitude not looks but almost everybody I encounter in real life is happy to talk to you if you're happy to talk to them they can easily like you very easily you just have to be a nice person uh the only problem with the real world is you've got a few Cairns am I right I'm using that sort of generically for you know you always have some bad characters and criminals and whatnot but basically the the 99 experience of life if you don't count that co-worker who's a psychopath everybody has a co-worker who's a psychopath right but you know not counting that most of your interactions are just with cool people having a good time and it works across race age gender uh religion sexual orientation yeah you name it that's the real world but we've we've been hypnotized into thinking the screen world I call it the screen world the thing that's only happening on my screens so I I'm in the middle of one of the biggest scandals dramas cancellation whatever you call it and the in the entire history of America it's one of the big ones I don't know what would be the biggest but I think you'd agree my cancellation is one of the biggest I I have no real world feeling about it like the the penalty went from the screen world over to the real world and I you know got canceled it so it affects my economics you know by incomes down 80 percent if your income now goes down to 80 you definitely feel it yeah no matter who you are you definitely feel it um but the screen world isn't any real people you know there are real people who interact but everybody turns into their worst self in person people like to put on their their best self why wouldn't you but on the screen everybody turns into like a monster so you got mostly trolls uh boss grifters narcissists white Knights click oars peacocks the angry uninformed they're my favorite we love the angry uninformed uh and then political hacks who are just working for collects of attention or money none of this is real I didn't even get canceled in the real world it's just that the cancellation bled into a different world like usually it doesn't jump yeah usually you can keep the screen world in the screen world but but it broke out of its like uh it was like a portal from Hell opened it was like and and once once the portal from Hell connected these two worlds all hell broke loose all right I gotta draw that this has to be immortalized if I can reach without pulling my microphones off yeah this will be the portal from hell portal from hell right so that that's sort of the big picture portal from Hell take a good look at that it's beautiful I think you can tell from this that I'm a professional cartoonist like I don't I don't like to brag and stuff but I mean look at this it's beautiful can you tell that Karen looks like exactly like a human female yeah yes you can or possibly uh a stain on a napkin it's one of those two things I do them both very well all right let's talk about uh here's the big picture uh so last night I did one hour for Chris Cuomo uh and boy do I appreciate Chris Cuomo all right so I think I told you before he was he was one of the people who contacted me but a lot of people contacted me for interviews and comments I said no to almost all of them but when he contacted me it was clear he had he had done his homework so he actually understood the full context amazing uh secondly he promised to give me you know close to a full hour so that I wouldn't be timed out before I made my point thank you that's exactly what this required so I said yes and he delivered he totally delivered now news Nation I was not totally familiar with but I think they're trying to I believe they're trying to frame themselves as the non-crazy news you know without the super spin there's always a little bit of bias in everything but I think they're trying to find the middle and I think they did I think they actually found the middle of this story so he asked he asked hard questions I'll talk in more detail and I'll give you some media lessons so he asked hard questions and by the way you can see the link to the full thing in my pinned tweet on Twitter uh he pushed on the hard questions which is what I wanted him to do because I don't want to do interview with a friendly like somebody who just agrees with me that that's not really going to move anything talking to people who agree with me not really a good use of time so uh I knew that he would push but I also knew that he knew the full context and I knew that he'd give me time to say what I wanted to say and he delivered all three so you know revise your CNN opinions of Chris Cuomo because that was a solid contribution to journalism I think now my uh my objective was to reframe things and move the window so those of you watched it can either confirm or deny but those of you who have not watched it and plan to if you're interested to see these little uh let's say communication techniques that I'm going to talk about if you want to see them in practice just watch the video after I explain them all right so the first thing that this is like a media lesson to the first thing you want to avoid if you find yourself in the Scandal is going on a show with a four minute hit because they're just gonna yell at you for three and a half minutes you'll get half a minute to do something that takes 10 minutes and then you'll run out of time so that's basically just you know uh inviting you into a trap but if somebody says I'll give you an hour and it'll be live and the live part's very important right that's what Chris Cuomo offered was live you don't want it recorded that's the 60 Minutes trick right the 60 Minutes trick is to say oh it's a it's a high respectable thing you sure want to be on here and then they can cut the video any way they want you've seen a lot of people complain about that right so the First Media trick is don't go to anything that's short don't go to anything that's recorded you get that right and you get a chance right and then also this is important you want to pick somebody that the audience will think is going to go at you hard that's important if it's looks too friendly then you lose all credibility you want somebody who genuinely is going to challenge you on whatever allegedly you did wrong and and Cuomo did that all right so here's what I want to do number one I wanted to put my point of view on record without the without any of those limitations I just uh detailed did I do that did I accomplish putting on video one full record of my complete thinking yes yes I was happy with the time you gave me the questions he asked and he gave me all the Time in the World to to fill in a lot of context which made a difference um so I got my viewpoint on record did you see anybody disagree with my major reframes which were the point of the entire offense right the as I described I intentionally used hyperbole to draw energy toward me to make a point and to reframe the race conversation so my objective was just to put out the idea into the universe that a lot of the race related training from CRT to esge to Dei they're all backwards philosophies or backwards strategies nobody in life goes forward by looking backwards you can have small gains like you can make somebody guilty and they'll give you some money in the short run but in the long term no person no individual black white any other color no company no organization can Thrive unless it's focused forward if you take a driver a driving lesson they will teach you to make sure you check your mirrors always be aware of History don't forget your history make sure you're really clear on you know everything that happened in black history Etc but your focus has to be on the road am I right I'm not ignoring my rear view mirrors that would be bad driving I I'm looking at my history I'm looking at what's behind me but my focus is straightforward now that was what that was the main thing I wanted to get across and that there is that there are a set of tools that can make any individual successful as long as we work together to fix schools which are completely broken at the moment schools are broken for black kids white kids they're just just broken completely and so that's the common ground if you look forward you can say to yourself hey how can we work together to fix this thing If You Look Backwards you just argue about who owes who I mean it just can't work take my take my exact situation what I offered was a set of success tools because a lot of the audience didn't know that I had more impact in the field of personal success that's what I write about and teach online Etc so I have way more impact on the world on that domain the audience was not aware of that but here I am offering a set of tools to make anybody more successful and would be especially useful to anybody who's suffering from systemic racism because systemic racism is a real drag on success but if you learn the right tools of success you can slice through it like a hot steel through butter is still a barrier but if you have a hot rod to stick through it that was not a sexual reference it just sounded like it don't stick your hot rod through butter you can I just don't recommend it um so look at my exact situation people are mad at me for what I said in the future are they mad at me for something I said in the future no that's not possible are they mad at first at me for something I'm saying right now like in the present nope nope they're mad at me for the past now look what look what you miss if that's your focus if your focus is mad at me from the past does that ignore the fact that I'm the most persuasive person in the realm of personal success and I've just told you how to be personally successful in a way that is very likely to work for just about everybody I'm offering for free you don't have to buy my book I'll tell you everything you want for free right now somebody's going to buy the book because it's it's packaged in a way but that's not the point in fact if you tried to buy my book you couldn't you couldn't buy my books and try they're all banned at the moment so I think they're out of stock yeah no so it's not about selling the books I'd love I'd love to sell some books I usually do things for more than one reason so if somebody bought my books that'd be great but I will give it all to you for free and I do it all the time I how many times do I describe what's in the book for free on live stream so if you look at me as somebody who said something you didn't like in the past you would be blind to the fact that I just opened up you know this Trove of useful things that I want to give you for free that absolutely will change your life in a positive way now if that sounds absurd to anybody who's new to me I'm going to do an exercise that I often do can I deliver that the people who know me you've been around can I deliver I'm giving you tools that would make you more successful based on your own experience can I deliver locals all say yes because they've watched me the longest You.

Tube the people who know me say yes right this is a real asset right as all you have to do is remove your past blindness stop looking at the rear view mirror and look at me I'm standing in the road right in front of your car with a big barrel of cash who sought in in this entire drama who was able to see me standing in the front of the highway with a big barrel of cash and it was for free it's free cash right now that was the frame that I was trying to reframe I was trying to reframe from looking at the past to frame it as looking at the future always works if you have the right tools but also you need to fix the systemic racism in the schools because if you don't get schools right nothing else Works basically I mean it works it's pretty hard all right so I believe I put into the world the idea that you should stop uh pursuing anything that's a backwards looking strategy for success now that's called The High Ground maneuver which I've discussed as the most powerful persuasion technique literally no one can disagree with looking forward instead of backwards because if you said it out loud you would sound stupid you would sound stupid if you said you know I hear what you're saying Scott but I really do like focusing on the past nobody could even say that in public because it sounds so stupid right and yet everybody was doing it not just black people everybody was doing it everybody was focusing on the past and when you deal with me you're focusing on the past too if all you can about is something I said in the past recent past recent past still passed the recent past is still the past yeah it's different all right so um that should act like an ear worm you know how earworms are you hear music and you can't get out of your head the people who heard you should not focus on the past are going to have a hard time forgetting that would you agree it's a reframe that and this is how reframes work one of the magic of reframes is that a good one you only have to hear once such as alcohol as poison just thinking of alcohol as poison is it reframe that actually makes it easier to stop drinking has been proven many times so yeah a good reframe gets in your mind and it can't get out and especially if it's a high ground maneuver zero people now you saw at the end of the if you watch the Cuomo interview he brought in a few guests to get a Counterpoint which I thought was good technique now you could argue that I should have also been on to Counterpoint the Counterpoint but at some point you know at some point it becomes too much so I was I was happy with that even even not having a response to the responses that was fair because you know it's the real world but did you see any of the people say that you should have a backwards Focus did anybody disagree with my primary purpose and reframe I don't think so right so here um here are the things that uh that I think were not uh focused on did and you saw I didn't see the guest talk I only heard some quotes so you'll have to fact check me on this did the guests see it on later I guess was Dan Abrams and uh some of the Eric Dyson and then another gentleman whose name I can't remember anyway did any of them accuse me of being a right-wing uh Maga or a racist did that did anyone say that no no because once you heard the context that no longer made sense so was I successful at least in the interview not in the world but in the interview was I successful in reframing myself as not a right wing crazy yes or no yes right so that that would be a big success communication wise wouldn't it because that would be an objective um remember how in the first days of my Scandal everybody was focused on the quality and usefulness of the pole the Rasmussen Pole by the end of me giving the context was anybody still complaining about depending on the poll knowing that I didn't depend on the poll I don't think they talked about it did they so that would be a successful communication um how about their focus on you had to know that there would be trouble yeah everybody's been saying the same thing you had to know you had to know and then you suffered the consequence did you see that I agreed with that and have from the beginning you had to know yeah of course I knew it was a risk it was a calculated risk but why did you do it if you had to know well I was using hyperbole but you had to know yes I had to know that's why I did it I knew that it would cause trouble that's the reason I did it but you had to know it would cause trouble okay how many times do I have to say I knew it would cause trouble before you'll agree with me I knew it would cause trouble that's why I did it okay I hear you but you had to know it caused trouble yeah I don't know if you noticed that a lot of the conversations are starting to take that form but um yeah did you notice that right so but then there was uh why am I complaining remember people kept saying why are you complaining because you knew there was you know the risk and I say when did I complain I've described but I've never complained once I I think they accepted that because they have no I mean there's no counterfactual nobody seemed to complain I haven't complained privately believe it or not I mean you there's no way to know that but even privately I have not complained because I'm not I'm not processing it as a complaint do you know why I don't process it as a complaint guess why why do I not process what I'm doing as a well why don't I feel like I should complain do you know why because I'm not looking at the past I'm looking at the future and you know what the future kicked up the future just kicked up me as the most prominent voice on an important trend and put me exactly where I wanted to be if you would ask me in advance Scott this is going to cost you uh here's the number it's going to cost you this many dollars but you get to be exactly where you are now would you take the deal yep yeah I would I would now I know that doesn't make sense to a normal person and I've never claimed I'm normal so I get that you wouldn't make the choice I get that but I'm pretty comfortable with it pretty comfortable all right what else um I made the claim and Chris allowed me to interrupt him um to make this point because for a moment it looked like we were going to go to break or something before I made an important point I claim that everyone who understood the context agreed with me uh but for a minute it looked like maybe that point was getting lost and there was some um let's say disagreement that quote everybody agreed with me and then I got a chance this is why you won an hour right this is exactly why offering me an hour is exactly the right thing to do uh so I interrupted him because I had time right if I didn't have time I couldn't have done it but I had time to interrupt and say no I just want to clarify it's only the people who've seen the context who are okay with it and I got I got to like really focus on that um in the end uh I think Chris Cuomo disagreed with me being canceled um I couldn't hear at that point but I think that happened right if you saw it would you would you call that a let's say a communication goal achieved because if if the host actually says you shouldn't be canceled after hearing the whole context and really listening to it that's it that's about as good as it gets right now I never wanted him to to agree with the the way I said it I never asked them to agree with the hyperbole because the whole point of the hyperbole is that it makes you mad now if you saw it there was a point where he asked a really good question and I think it was based on a caller's uh concern um you know what do you say to the caller who was hurt like her feelings were hurt by you know my my statements and under many normal circumstances that would be a normal apology situation but I would I think I would hold an apology for this world anybody in this world the real one who wants an apology I'd probably give it to him I'd probably give it to him and I wouldn't even I don't think I'd hesitate if somebody was standing in front of me and said you know hey you made me feel bad I'd probably say something like this well I'm sorry it made you feel bad but I had a I had a purpose in mind and all change is painful I hope you can get over it and hey how about let's not focus on the past I've got some really good tools for you that would make you more successful are you interested so um let's see what else so when the uh oh let me say that there I did have a blind spot which I think explains a lot uh here's my blind spot which I think fills in the biggest mystery because when people said you had to know it would happen that sounds uh that sounds incomplete because I uh you know I say I was surprised that it was that big and people say how can you possibly be surprised that the reaction was that big and that's a wouldn't you like to know that why was I surprised that the reaction was that big doesn't that seem like a blind spot because I was surprised I was genuinely surprised I knew there'd be a reaction that was a point all right here's why it is impossible to sit here and talk to um two computer screens and feel my impact on the world you can't feel it is there's a total illusion when you're famous that you're not famous did you know that I speculate that what one of the reasons that somebody like uh Michael Jordan talks about himself with a third party like Michael Jordan would never do that or Michael Jordan isn't going to let you lose the game in the last second like like he's a different person it's because you're you know public person and you're a real person or completely different um so did I underestimate my own let's say uh I won't say importance did I underestimate my impact on other people's minds and I think I did or influence maybe yeah reach reach maybe so I underestimated my reach and my influence now the reach of course was accelerated by the fact that as I talked about on the show and I didn't see anybody disagree that we've monetized outrage so I definitely underestimated the effectiveness of the monetization of outrage because I didn't think they would get to my choke points right I did think some newspapers might bail out that was a risk but I didn't think they'd get to my actual distributor if you can turn the distributor off then all the newspapers turn off at the same time which is what happened and the same with my books yeah it's not like they have to cancel a book they went after the publisher and the publisher had my entire backlog of books plus the new one so with one cancellation they can get my whole catalog of books so that that's what happened now I didn't that was not something I saw coming so if you want to call me Dom or say I have a blind spot because I didn't realize that people cared enough about my opinion I mean honestly I didn't think people cared enough about my opinion I really didn't that was sort of a surprise but I'm not sure they cared about the opinion so much as the outrage machine is so well oiled and everybody gets a Payday uh click click click click click click everybody gets a Payday so I think I had not estimated how efficiently the cancellation machine is in February 2023.

so that's on me would you agree that's on me so because one of the things that people want to say is you're not taking responsibility no I'm trying to take it as hard as possible I'm trying I'm trying to take as much responsibility as I could possibly can if there's anything I'm leaving out remind me and I'll take that responsibility too I'm a hundred percent responsibility for what I did now I'm not responsible for the fact that we have a backwards looking world and you know there's a cancellation Machinery that operates efficiently that's for other people to work on but I'm completely responsible for any risk management decision I make if it goes wrong and then other people just don't know how to do uh statistics uh well let me get to this point so one of the guests uh who came on they did a little mind reading so one of the guests had two complaints which he emphasized on Twitter today uh he he's surprised that I was baffled by the outcome that was his words I was baffled by the cancellation have does that word fit anything that happened because what I thought happened was it was a calculated risk and one of the one of the outcomes was complete cancellation of course it was it wasn't my expectation but of course it was an obvious risk and and he read my mind and after all this decided that I was baffled that I got canceled now baffled is one of those words you use when you don't have an argument if you don't have an argument you read somebody's mind and then you characterize it in a weird way and then you criticize your own characterization of the thing you mind read that's called winning the conversation for me if I could give somebody's only best argument to be that they imagined I was baffled when the evidence suggests exactly the opposite but the way I did have I did have a blind spot that's true but I wasn't baffled that you know that was always a possibility then this other was uh he says he disagrees that I said it was the quote only way to fight racism did I say anything like that did anybody hear me say that getting canceled was the only way to fight racism nothing like that so when somebody has to literally make up an opinion for you assign it to you and then argue you shouldn't have that opinion who won the conversation that that's me winning as hard as you can win that's like game over all right Dan Abrams argued and uh keep in mind that he was an attorney right so he's somebody who's really good at arguing and breaking down logic and stuff all right so the guy who's a professional logical communicator had this to say he said I can't have it both way both ways claiming that I was using hyperbole but I was also taken out of context so he lawyered me and he said ah I found a technical problem with the argument you can't use hyperbole or say you used hyperbole but also a completely different excuse that you were taken out of context to which I say the hyperbole was the specific sentence the context is why I said it yes Dan Abrams you can use Hyperbole and be taken out of context there's absolutely no conflict between those two things they work together really well yes hyperbole yes also take it out of context and that was his best I think that was his best criticism keep in mind that none of the points I made were involved in the criticism right the criticism is that you can't have it both ways when obviously you can quite easily and it doesn't take much to convince you it's true that was the best he had he's a lawyer he's a smart guy he does this for a living well he does this for a living and that was his best take that that's all he had can I win any harder than that seriously would it be even possible to win harder than that I don't think so um and then there were some Professor guy who somebody said that he was doubting that a qualified black applicant would have an advantage in a big Corporation in America that is desperate to increase their diversity did that actually happen did he actually doubt the fact that a qualified black employee would have an advantage in Corporate America I didn't know that anybody questioned that but if there are other people in Black America who believe that's true think of the opportunity they just opened up imagine imagine if that's a common opinion and imagine some number of black Americans watched the show because there were a number of Collins so I know he's got black Watchers viewers so imagine you're a black American and you heard me say no if you get a good education you're going to actually be at the top of the hiring list imagine you'd never heard that before because I've actually heard other other black Americans say that they said no that's not true there's no favoritism in Corporate America and and I have to explain the long story of it is so true it's like the truest thing that's ever been true like there's no gray area this is the truest of all true things it just doesn't apply to small companies so I think that's where the confusion is if your experiences with small companies yeah they're probably pretty racist so that would be a good strategy to not get a job at the Korean supermarket right have I ever advised a young black man to get an education and you know while he's working through school go work at the Korean grocery store I don't know if they're going to discriminate but I'd worry about it yeah go where go where you have a a an advantage in bias because the world is going to give you both you know bias advantages and bias disadvantages go where you have an advantage black or white go where you have an advantage and that would be Corporate America if you're black if you're white start your own business if you're a white man in America I would not get into the corporate world you know unless it's a special case you know it's like all you've lived for all your life or something but it's really not not the best statistical statistically it's not your best strategy your best strategy would be start your own business if you can all right and by the way that would be a great strategy for black Americans but a good way to do it is to get some corporate experience and connections and build up some money and stuff and then start a business that's not a bad way to do it so two ways to do it all right that ladies and gentlemen is my review of it if you haven't seen it go take a look and see if my characterization of it feels fair to you uh again big thank you to Chris Cuomo I think that was a solid contribution to journalism frankly um it's the best thing that's happened so far uh except Hotel was great um the hotel Jesus interview I thought was terrific and I'm very appreciative for that all right um did you learn anything did you learn anything about Media communication hope so uh and somebody says no there's always a no all right that's all for now I'm gonna go talk to the locals people privately thanks for joining everybody on You.

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well at the uh toward the second half of

this I will talk about my interview last

night with Chris Cuomo which was really

interesting and I'm going to talk about

the communication techniques

and the persuasion techniques that are

that you can see happening what I

attempted to do is move the frame

and then we'll talk about whether I did

that

that'll be later we'll talk about the

news first

um I tweeted just the other day that

having Vivic ramaswamy

uh in the in the primaries makes Trump a

better candidate

would anybody disagree with that at this

point because Trump came out saying he

wants to disband the Department of

Education which Vivek had said just the

other day

now once vivik said it you know I'm sort

of focused on it for a little while uh

Trump kind of had to play catch-up

didn't he you had to catch up

so he had to at least match it

and how happy are you about that

you know I I always tell you that I like

to look at things from a systems

perspective

the goal perspective would be I want

this one candidate to win that would be

a goal a system perspective is we are so

much better off with Vivek in the debate

you're not you know what nobody can say

anymore

Republicans are dumb

or Republicans are too old or yeah

they're they're not they're not reading

the room or like he he just eliminates a

whole bunch of arguments right or or

even that uh conservatives you know

won't back somebody who's a person of

color you know even though he's clearly

not making that a point of anything in

this campaign which is of course

brilliant which is of course why he's

you know gets attention because he's

brilliant

like wouldn't it be nice

to have somebody like in charge of the

country who you legitimately said well I

might not agree with everything but that

guy's brilliant like just once right now

this is the reason that I like Bill

Clinton

yeah I'm far less party-bound than maybe

my reputation would suggest

uh I like Bill Clinton because he was

freaking brilliant and I didn't care who

we banged on the side any more than I

care what Trump did or did not do with

Stormy Daniels

completely irrelevant you know give me

smart

give me capable

I'm good

um so good job for Vivek making things

just better you know no matter what

happens I think he made things better

and looks like that'll continue I would

like to announce a death

um I know that's it's a bummer but

sometimes things die and it should be uh

I think we should take a moment of

silence for it but here's what happened

uh you've probably heard this quote

uh quote it must be true because I saw

the video with my own eyes

well that absurd belief was born around

1951 with the Advent of video and uh it

had a long life but in recent years it

started struggling with a bad illness

and it finally died yesterday February 6

2023 and

R.I.P rest in peace it must be true

because I saw the video with my own eyes

yes that's how all hoaxes are created

making you think there's no other

interpretation than the one you saw in

the video if you learn nothing this year

learn that all video is a lie

all of it

all video is a lie

every time even if it's not edited wrong

it's still focusing your visual

persuasion on one point almost always to

the exclusion of whatever the other

point of view is because if you're

looking at it you're believing it if

you're hearing it you're like ah concept

concept Retreat to my team views I

didn't hear what you said but a video

is is establishing the argument right

all video lies

all video lives all the time it can't do

anything else I don't even know if

there's a possibility for it to not lie

I mean think about it it's always going

to focus you on one thing

at the exclusion or at least the

diminishment of the other things it's

always a lie

at least in you know in part

so yes we're talking about Tucker

Carlson got a hold of the January 6

footage

and his take and most of the people who

are looking at it from the right their

take seems to be that proves the January

6 videos that the so-called select

January 6 committee showed to the world

to build their case

we're a disgusting lie

and

um

although not illegal because I believe

Congress and people

do a fact check on me I believe Congress

is allowed in terms of it being legal

they're they're legally allowed to lie

to you as much as they want are they not

legally

am I right

yeah there's no law against it it's

actually so so we watched Congress

frame a bunch of American citizens

you might call them patriots

and I wouldn't argue with that

we saw our own Congress frame them

because they have this apparently some

kind of loophole

where they can destroy lives by lying in

public in a way that an ordinary citizen

you know couldn't possibly do the same

thing

now like I say it's not illegal

but if it were illegal what would the

penalty be

pretty serious jail time wouldn't it

now I don't think there's any practical

way to make it illegal so I understand

why it's not illegal because everybody's

lying all the time like you couldn't

even have a government if if you went to

jail for lying everybody'd be in jail so

I get why it's not illegal but if it

were illegal

this would have been 25 years in jail

right allowing what dozens or hundreds

how many people how many people went to

jail for effectively trespassing

a lot right if you send dozens or

hundreds of your own citizens to jail

and you know you're lying or at least

you know you're showing things out of

context

it's probably that's that should be like

a 25 years shelter

does anybody disagree with that

it's it's hard for me to think of

anything worse than that that that's you

know not actually murder or rape or

something right pedophilia I suppose

there are a few few things that are

worse but it's one of the worst things

I've ever seen

one of the worst things I've ever seen

unless

unless

does anybody have the suspicion

that you just went from one misleading

set of videos to another

did anybody say themselves

how do I know that Tucker's videos are

giving me the right story

ah

how quickly did you buy into the The

Narrative that the other narrative was

completely wrong

and that it was all a big ol op

pretty quickly right pretty quickly

because that's what agreed with your

preconceived notions didn't it

didn't it yeah you kind of expected

that you'd see that the narrative had

been false

so you saw what you expected

how much should you trust your own let's

say rational census if you see something

that totally agrees with what you

thought was going to be true

you want to be a little bit cautious

here's the here's the thing I'd like to

see

I'd like to see somebody who does not

agree with Tucker Carlson about anything

have access to the whole the whole

catalog give them a little time

and then give them a full a hearing

right this is the sort of thing where

you need to hear the other side so now

Tucker's shown a Counterpoint to the

January six people and I think that was

a huge service would you agree

this I think what Tucker Carlson is

doing somebody somebody said it maybe

cernovich said it that it's uh maybe one

of the most

useful

important things anybody ever did in

journalism it's like right at the top of

important things

in my opinion so so what Tucker's doing

is like real good work

real good work but you as a smart

consumer and I'll bet Tucker wouldn't

disagree with us I'll bet if you were

sitting here he'd say yeah that's true

which is until you hear what other

people say if they also have access to

the full catalog of the videos just see

if they can come up with a narrative

that makes his narrative weaker

I don't know if they can

let me tell you how every hoax was done

that fooled other people all right

here's how those hoaxes were done

here's a video

or a series of videos here's the video

how could you possibly interpret this

any other way

right that's how all the hoaxes are done

I I can't imagine any other way to

interpret this video there's only one

way to interpret this video

as long as they can get you to not

imagine any other way to interpret it

you won't you know you yeah you probably

just won't imagine that there's any

other possibility but I but I would say

imagine there might be

I kind of trust Tucker on this story

so my if I had to guess I don't think

anybody will be able to refute

his narrative in any important way like

there's always ways to pick at the edges

of anything but I don't think anybody's

going to take the heart out of his

narrative

but that's exactly what you say before

you get fooled I can't imagine anybody

doing that

right so I so I'm actually describing

myself in the same blind spot I'm

warning you not to be it it's almost

impossible to avoid it

all right so let's talk about some of

the details so it looks like the uh the

Horn Guy the the Q

Shaman right Q Anon Shaman they call

them

um the videos of him are so clearly

indicating he needs to be released from

prison like right now

like right right now now if somebody

else has other video that shows

something we didn't see maybe but he was

actually hanging out friendly in a

friendly way with a number of uh I don't

know guards or law enforcement what they

were one of them opened a door for him

it seemed like they enjoyed him

I mean they weren't smiling or anything

but it looked like they were either

amused certainly not threatened

certainly not threatened it was just a

guy in a fun outfit walking through a

hallway and they opened a door for him

and they were walking with him at one

point

yeah when you see that video

um again it's impossible to imagine

that what that one person was doing was

in any way a four-year criminal sentence

like I'm not entirely sure what he got

convicted of but wasn't it something

like

protesting or interfering with a

official proceedings or something

yeah and as somebody said I think it was

Tom fitton said on his spaces there can

be things that are technically illegal

that are not appropriate to to prosecute

would you agree that the world is full

of things that are technically illegal

but you do not get a better world by

Prosecuting them

now here's a perfect example of that did

he do things that were technically

illegal probably

is anything he did worth Prosecuting in

the sense that it would make the world a

better place would it would it prevent

him from doing it in the future

I don't think that's a risk

would it prevent anyone else from doing

something similar in the future

if it did I don't think it was worth

putting him in jail

right so you could be technically

you know breaking a law and still the

right thing is not to prosecute they're

probably infinite examples like that

all right uh

so the the general uh tone of the uh

Tucker's narrative I guess is that the

evidence shows uh something like a

patriotic protesters who clearly were

not looking to hurt anybody

everybody agrees there were dangerous

people there who definitely had some bad

ideas all of those people are condemned

if they go to jail I don't care

but that wasn't the character of the

crowd and it wasn't the it wasn't the

point of it it certainly wasn't a

insurrection

so the Insurrection narrative is

dissolving

and Tucker Carlson gets to be right

again

and every time he's right about this

I'll tell you what I'm talking about

every time he's right about this

it pisses me off

because for maybe a few years

I would I would just shake my head when

I heard him say it because it just

sounded so just like team play narrative

stuff and you'd always say that whatever

the Democrats are accusing you of you

can be sure that's what they're doing

themselves

here it is here it is

that they were literally trying to

um

do something just incredibly

uh disrupt disreputable it wasn't

illegal but certainly unethical

certainly on wise certainly bad for the

country right now it wasn't exactly what

what they're accusing people of but it

the accusations did seem like a cover-up

for their own behavior in a way

so I mean I hated when Tucker keeps

being right about that over and over

again

uh poor Josh Hawley

who is there was one video of him

seemingly you know skipping fast or

running or something which uh the

Democrats use to say that guy he

encouraged things and then he ran away

like a coward like a coward now I didn't

see the

um I couldn't see the video when I was

listening to it but apparently that was

debunked when you see the the greater

context

apparently it doesn't look weird or

cowardly if you see the context surprise

surprise a hoax it was a hoax within a

hoax so the you know the first hoax

being that it was an Insurrection

obviously it was a protest not an

Insurrection second host within a hoax

within the hoax was that Holly was

running like a I think that's what

people said

I only use that word because I think

that was actually a congress person to

use that word

um

and then that turned out to be a rupar

at it as we call it where you cut out

the context

have we ever seen this first is this the

first time we've seen a a hoax and then

a hoax within the hoax

have we gone to hoax squared

it's sort of like the Russian egg of

hoaxes oh what's inside here oh lovely

but what's inside here oh another hoax

but wait what's inside here oh

and repeat

all right so

what do you do about all that what do

you do about any of it do you think

anybody will pay

either politically or legally or

lawsuits I don't even think you'd sue

them right I think Congress is exempt

from being sued as far as I know

um

so here's a sort of a side issue uh

again Mike cernovich is going hard at

Trump

for having the opportunity to

preemptively pardon the non-violent

January sixes before he left office and

he didn't do it

which sort of it properly points out

uh

needs some explaining now that's that's

my take my take is it needs some

explaining because again I haven't heard

Trump's argument

can you imagine any argument that Trump

would make that would make you happy

like what what in the world could Trump

say that would make you satisfied having

not pardoned those people before he left

he can't think of one right

you can't even think of one all right

suppose he had one

suppose he had a good suppose he had a

reason that's not obvious

because I don't see any reason

I mean the only reason that's obvious

would be something like cowardice or not

caring those will be the obvious ones

but

what if there's another reason

don't you think there could be some

other explanation that's just not

obvious

let me give you one all right I'm going

to give you an explanation that I'm not

I'm not saying is the accurate one

all I'm doing is stretching your

imagination a little bit right this is

just an imagination stretcher not not a

claim of Truth

imagine being Trump

and you're being accused of running an

insurrection

it looks like Trump had a private Army

do you remember what people were saying

it's Trump's private Army and all the

Maga people basically are

insurrectionists and they don't love the

country they're definitely not Patriots

they're all criminals and they're

running a coup

and then he pardoned some

think about it

just put yourself in Trump's shoes he's

got to make a decision that's good for

himself

but also not damage the country

not damage the country

if you put me in that position and you

say Scott

the ethical thing to do the moral thing

to do is to Pardon those innocent people

right away

would you agree that the ethical and

moral thing to do was depart in those

innocent people before he left office I

would

that that would be the moral and ethical

thing to do

however

would it be good for the country

would it be good for the country

because it would confirm the false

narrative that he had formed a private

Army because if he just says I'm going

to ignore the law I'm going to ignore

the legal process

now keep in mind he also didn't know how

long they would be held or what they

would be charged with exactly right

do you do you think that Trump knew that

today they'd still be in jail for

basically nothing that matters nothing

that matters

no he couldn't have known how bad it

would be but even still I'm going to

agree hard with cernovich

this is a hard agreement

that he didn't put it this way but I

think you would agree with the following

statement that it was unethical

and immoral frankly immoral to not help

them when he knew that they were

just good Patriots

and I would have said the same thing if

I had a bunch of Democrats have been

picked up on sketching charges like in

the in both cases it would be immoral to

leave them there

but number one he could not have known

how bad it would get because he was only

in office what two more weeks

right but he could have suspected that

it would Harden The Narrative the

Republicans are nothing but an

insurrectionist party and the the Maga

movement has to be uprooted by its his

roots

but

playing it this way

again

John if you're coming in late this is

not spinning it this is just helping you

imagine that no matter who it is whether

it's Trump or Satan there might be

something more to the story

every time any of us have been fooled by

a news story and that's all of us I

remember the Covington kids thing fooled

me for a little less than a day but it

definitely fooled me we all have the

same blind spot you can't imagine

what you can't imagine

does that make sense

you you can't understand what you can't

imagine and it could be just there's

more to the story

the the look at the quality of this

comment Scott is a liar

I'm a liar

I've not even made a claim of fact

all I've made is a claim that you should

expand your uh your imagination you're

having a little trouble with this NPC

you can tell the NPCs there is like the

first level I can't get past

anyway so I do not defend uh Trump but

uh just as I try to be consistent with

every story

if you haven't heard the other side

if you haven't heard the other side you

do owe that to Trump

right you owe Trump his explanation

because I think there's a possibility

that he had to choose between destroying

the country and doing something clearly

unethical which is keeping them in jail

or immoral pick your pick your turn

with that choice

I know it might have been the choice

just saying

all right um

how about that lab League Theory

I haven't talked about that too much you

know the fact that now the the consensus

of the experts is it must have come from

the lab

um but it doesn't feel like news to me

like the news is that the government is

is no longer denying you the obvious

explanation

but but doesn't it feel like we've known

it for so long

that the fact that the government had

been lying or was useless in terms of

helping us understand

that feels like business as usual today

doesn't it like the fact that the the

government was lying or misleading once

again once again

I couldn't generate any outrage at all

I've been trying for days to generate

some outrage over the fact that we were

denied you know the obvious explanation

that came from the lab and I'm just it's

now just Baseline government

weaselness that I'm so freaking used to

it it didn't even register in my outrage

orb so I guess I need you know more I

need more to get me outraged I mean it's

an outrageous story I just I'm just so

used to it

here's a logic question

um

let's say there everybody knows there's

some excess deaths that are continuing

long after the pandemic Peak

and there's a lot of question about what

is causing the excess deaths

um

if the covet itself starts fizzling out

or at least the you know the most

dangerous forms of covert fizzle out

let's say the hospitalizations go to

practically nothing it looks like that

could happen in the next I don't know

six months or so

but let's say if the excess deaths

still continued climbing after the covet

itself

had gone away what would be the logical

Theory

somebody say vaccinations vaccinations

now that that was the theory I heard but

I want to test the logic with you

at some point

most adults are going to be vaccinated

most not you necessarily they'll have at

least two two boosters

most

and they will also have been exposed to

covet

so if you've got both the vaccination in

you and the covid

let's say one of those had a long-term

effect let's say both of them stay in

your body forever I'm not saying that's

true but let's say it did let's say the

spike protein stays in your body forever

unless and does bad stuff and let's say

that the covet maybe stays in your body

and does some bad stuff or maybe either

one of them weaken some key system in

your body

so that you don't die right away but

that excess death just stays up there

because people are just generally

weakened from one or the other or from

some you know third or fourth effect

do you think that

the decrease of covid

with the increase of excess deaths

or even the stings or even staying the

same excess deaths do you think that

narrows it down to the vaccinations

because

that would only make sense to me if the

only kind of harm was short-term harm

now most harm is short-term I think but

everything about this virus well not

everything a lot about this virus has

surprised us

so if you've got a surprising and

engineered virus is it possible that it

could be eating at your systems in a

slow way

and then either the vaccination or the

covet

because both of them have some long-term

at least hypothetical risk is it

possible that people could be dying at

greater numbers in the future

only because they had been so degraded

by one or both of those things or three

or four other things

so you can't you get because I think the

math still works

I believe the math Works to keep excess

deaths

um even if covid goes down

I think it does

but I wouldn't bet my life on it because

and by the way the the more likely

explanation

would be exactly exactly the theory that

it's the vaccinations

so

that's just sort of a logic question

whether there's any scenario in which

um

you could not narrow it down but it was

definitely definitely be a strong strong

signal that the vaccinations were a

problem we'll see and apparently we

won't know for sure for maybe until May

all right so I saw this from the ethical

skeptic tweets

um you're in about four Americans

kidnapped by a cartel in Mexico

um that's War

that's War

how many Americans need to be kidnapped

by a cartel in Mexico before its War

one one carful

yeah I think it was four people

somebody says two are dead

oh yeah I figured

no surprise and you were dead

um that's War

yep that's War

you you don't walk away from that that's

War

now do you think uh having Vivek

ramaswamy in the race now makes sense

yes because he said go into Mexico first

try to work with the Mexican Government

but if that doesn't work we take care of

it ourselves

Trump also said that Trump said it first

which I think also raises you know

vivek's bid so now you have two strong

candidates one of them the one who's

leading in the polls saying uh war with

Mexico

like actually invade just the cartels

not the government

yeah

so

uh these deaths should be the turning

point if we're a serious country

it should be the reason to vote uh

Republican

you know all of your other reasons to

not vote Republican don't care

don't care I'm a single issue voter if

we can't fix this one thing

like what's the point of a government

you can't do this one thing just give me

one thing and I'll vote for you

Marcia Blackburn Republican has an idea

on fentanyl she wants to increase

sanctions on China because that's the

source of the precursors I think we all

know that even if China shut down the

precursor business probably just moved

to China or else moved to Mexico or

someplace else some other country so I'm

definitely in favor of this plan but

it's not the end of fentanyl right it

might make a difference it might make a

big difference but it wouldn't be the

m-defense so her idea is to increase the

sanctions on China until they shut down

their business now the way China games

the system is they say we do make it

illegal and if anybody does it we do

pick them up and put them in jail but

the criminals simply change the formula

a little bit of the precursors and then

it doesn't technically trigger the the

law

so as long as the Chinese government

allows them to Tinker with the formula

every time the law is specified it's

like doing nothing

right China knows how to stop it so

that's why I'm in favor of of sanctions

but here's what doesn't work

uh doing the sanctions that you haven't

announced

like oh we're going to give you some

sanctions because you've done this I

don't like that

I like putting it on a schedule

I like

publishing a schedule all right

on this day we're going to do this if

the fentanyl's still coming in which it

will be on this day we're going to do

this additional thing on this day we're

going to do this additional thing and

just show them the menu and you see that

by the end it's full destruction

of their economy

now they can go as far down that list as

they want to

as long as we don't stop going

right at some point they're going to say

you know after three of the things on

this list I don't want to see number six

because this is starting to sting a

little bit right but I think the entire

the entire threat is useless unless it's

completely mapped out on the schedule

this is what we're going to do Tuesday

this is what we're going to do Wednesday

and then you got to do it right no

matter how how brutal it gets

the Matt Hancock story I don't know that

story

the Matt Hancock story

is that ring a belt with anybody

he's British

okay

um

anyway so that's the start

um have you heard about this is like the

worst story in Iran uh for I guess

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there's all these poisoning attacks in

girls schools over 50 schools and more

than 400 school girls in 21 provinces

across Iran have been poisoned

in school

like intentionally I guess it's obvious

that it's intentional but they don't

know who's doing it they assume you're

the best guess is some religious

extremist who doesn't like girls

education which is pretty good guess

but

I can't even imagine that

can you

it's like it defies imagination it's

like a level of evil that your brain

can't

I can't even rap inside around

so you know this is this is one thing

where I guess I can say I agree with the

Ayatollah the Ayatollah says if they

find who's doing it they're gonna

they're gonna execute them and

I hate to agree with Ayatollah

but yeah

that would be a big guess you need to

execute whoever that is wow

um president XI was getting a little

more appointed about the America no

surprise and he's he's saying directly

in his speeches that the U.S is hurting

China's economy

and I don't know how much is the U.S

hurting it with sanctions

and how much is just the natural

situation but here's some of the bad

economic news for China no surprise

China's exports fell seven percent yeah

in the January to February period

I don't know if that's a big deal could

be seasonal I don't know what that's

about uh extending a decline from

private previous months okay that's even

worse as Global demand weakened and

imports dropped 10 percent

uh China's exports the U.S plunged 15

percent

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there we go

good work America

yeah China's exports the U.S plunged 15

now here's something that you wouldn't

necessarily know if you're not an

economist or you don't study this stuff

you don't have to take a hundred percent

of anything to destroy it

right the things have a Breaking Point

and you know you don't have to get down

to zero zero exports to America before

China's in serious trouble

15 sounds like a catastrophe to me

doesn't it to you

a 15 decline in the in exports the U.S

to me that sounds like a catastrophe

like it's not it's not a end of the

economy a catastrophe but what if it's

25 or 30 percent

you know if it's 30 percent

it's probably game over

and we're heading in that direction

now you know that's always hyperbole too

have I ever used any hyperbole before

is this the first time I think maybe

I've possibly done that before I have

like some vague memory where I've done

that before but no it doesn't mean the

child is going to collapse but it would

be it would be a serious adjustment

they'd have to make if they lost if if a

U.S exports declined 30 percent

15 is pretty big

all right who would like to hear about

my interview last night with Chris Cuomo

on news Nation only available uh

initially on your cable If They carried

it but now it's available on YouTube

so if you go to my pinned tweet

on YouTube today you'll get a link to

the full interview

and I wanted to talk about it but also

give you a little bit of a

sort of a lesson

would anybody like a Media communication

persuasion lesson

because it's coming up

all right

but first let's go to the Whiteboard

here here's my overview of what life is

like for me in the in the center of a

scandal

there appear to be two very two very

different worlds

there's a real world

like the one when I walk outside

and

everybody I see is kind and happy

and they have genuinely genuine good

feelings for other people

I don't know what your experience is in

life but I don't really run into any

ugly people in terms of attitude not

looks but almost everybody I encounter

in real life

is happy to talk to you if you're happy

to talk to them

they can easily like you very easily you

just have to be a nice person

uh the only problem with the real world

is you've got a few Cairns am I right

I'm using that sort of generically for

you know you always have some bad

characters and criminals and whatnot but

basically the the 99

experience of life if you don't count

that co-worker who's a psychopath

everybody has a co-worker who's a

psychopath right but you know not

counting that most of your interactions

are just with cool people having a good

time and it works across race age gender

uh religion sexual orientation yeah you

name it that's the real world

but we've we've been hypnotized into

thinking the screen world I call it the

screen world the thing that's only

happening on my screens

so I I'm in the middle of one of the

biggest

scandals dramas cancellation whatever

you call it and the in the entire

history of America

it's one of the big ones I don't know

what would be the biggest but I think

you'd agree my cancellation is one of

the biggest

I I have no real world feeling about it

like the the penalty went from the

screen world over to the real world and

I you know got canceled it so it affects

my economics

you know by incomes down 80 percent

if your income now goes down to 80 you

definitely feel it yeah no matter who

you are you definitely feel it

um but the screen world isn't any real

people

you know there are real people who

interact but everybody turns into their

worst self

in person people like to put on their

their best self why wouldn't you but on

the screen everybody turns into like a

monster

so you got mostly trolls uh boss

grifters narcissists white Knights click

oars peacocks the angry uninformed

they're my favorite we love the angry

uninformed uh and then political hacks

who are just working for collects of

attention or money

none of this is real

I didn't even get canceled in the real

world it's just that the cancellation

bled into a different world

like usually it doesn't jump yeah

usually you can keep the screen world in

the screen world but but it broke out of

its like uh it was like a portal from

Hell opened it was like

and and once once the portal from Hell

connected these two worlds

all hell broke loose all right I gotta

draw that

this has to be immortalized

if I can reach without pulling my

microphones off

yeah

this will be the

portal from hell

portal

from hell

right so that that's sort of the big

picture

portal from Hell take a good look at

that it's beautiful

I think you can tell from this that I'm

a professional cartoonist like I don't I

don't like to brag and stuff but I mean

look at this it's beautiful

can you tell that Karen looks like

exactly like a human female yeah yes you

can or possibly uh a stain on a napkin

it's one of those two things

I do them both very well

all right let's talk about uh here's the

big picture uh so last night I did one

hour for Chris Cuomo uh and boy do I

appreciate Chris Cuomo all right so I

think I told you before he was he was

one of the people who contacted me but a

lot of people contacted me for

interviews and comments I said no to

almost all of them

but when he contacted me it was clear he

had he had done his homework so he

actually understood the full context

amazing uh secondly he promised to give

me you know close to a full hour so that

I wouldn't be timed out before I made my

point

thank you that's exactly what this

required

so I said yes

and he delivered he totally delivered

now news Nation I was not totally

familiar with but I think they're trying

to I believe they're trying to frame

themselves as the

non-crazy news you know without the

super spin there's always a little bit

of bias in everything but I think

they're trying to find the middle

and I think they did I think they

actually found the middle of this story

so he asked he asked hard questions I'll

talk in more detail and I'll give you

some media lessons so he asked hard

questions

and by the way you can see the link to

the full thing in my pinned tweet on

Twitter

uh he pushed on the hard questions which

is what I wanted him to do because I

don't want to do interview with a

friendly like somebody who just agrees

with me

that that's not really going to move

anything talking to people who agree

with me

not really a good use of time

so uh I knew that he would push but I

also knew that he knew the full context

and I knew that he'd give me time to say

what I wanted to say and he delivered

all three

so

you know revise your CNN opinions of

Chris Cuomo because that was a solid

contribution to journalism I think

now

my uh my objective was to reframe things

and move the window

so those of you watched it can either

confirm or deny but those of you who

have not watched it and plan to if

you're interested to see these little uh

let's say communication techniques that

I'm going to talk about if you want to

see them in practice just watch the

video after I explain them

all right so the first thing that this

is like a media lesson to the first

thing you want to avoid if you find

yourself in the Scandal is going on a

show with a four minute hit

because they're just gonna yell at you

for three and a half minutes

you'll get half a minute to do something

that takes 10 minutes and then you'll

run out of time

so that's basically just you know uh

inviting you into a trap but if somebody

says I'll give you an hour and it'll be

live and the live part's very important

right that's what Chris Cuomo offered

was live you don't want it recorded

that's the 60 Minutes trick

right the 60 Minutes trick is to say oh

it's a it's a high respectable thing you

sure want to be on here and then they

can cut the video any way they want

you've seen a lot of people complain

about that right so the First Media

trick is don't go to anything that's

short

don't go to anything that's recorded

you get that right and you get a chance

right and then also this is important

you want to pick somebody that the

audience will think is going to go at

you hard

that's important if it's looks too

friendly then you lose all credibility

you want somebody who genuinely is going

to challenge you on whatever allegedly

you did wrong and and Cuomo did that

all right so here's what I want to do

number one I wanted to put my point of

view on record without the without any

of those limitations I just uh detailed

did I do that

did I accomplish

putting on video one full record of my

complete thinking

yes yes I was happy with the time you

gave me the questions he asked and he

gave me all the Time in the World to to

fill in a lot of context which made a

difference

um so I got my viewpoint on record

did you see anybody disagree with my

major reframes which were the point of

the entire offense right the as I

described I intentionally used hyperbole

to draw energy

toward me to make a point and to reframe

the race conversation

so my objective was just to put out the

idea into the universe that a lot of the

race related training from CRT to esge

to Dei they're all backwards

philosophies or backwards strategies

nobody in life goes forward by looking

backwards you can have small gains like

you can make somebody guilty and they'll

give you some money in the short run but

in the long term no person no individual

black white any other color no company

no organization can Thrive unless it's

focused forward

if you take a driver a driving lesson

they will teach you to make sure you

check your mirrors

always be aware of History don't forget

your history make sure you're really

clear on you know everything that

happened in black history Etc

but your focus has to be on the road am

I right I'm not ignoring my rear view

mirrors that would be bad driving I I'm

looking at my history I'm looking at

what's behind me but my focus is

straightforward now that was what that

was the main thing I wanted to get

across and that there is that there are

a set of tools

that can make any individual successful

as long as we work together to fix

schools which are completely broken at

the moment schools are broken for black

kids white kids they're just just broken

completely

and so that's the common ground

if you look forward you can say to

yourself hey

how can we work together to fix this

thing If You Look Backwards you just

argue about who owes who

I mean it just can't work

take my take my exact situation

what I offered was a set of success

tools because a lot of the audience

didn't know that I had more impact in

the field of personal success that's

what I write about and teach online Etc

so I have way more impact on the world

on that domain the audience was not

aware of that but here I am offering a

set of tools to make anybody more

successful

and would be especially useful to

anybody who's suffering from systemic

racism

because systemic racism is a real drag

on success

but if you learn the right tools of

success you can slice through it like a

hot steel through butter

is still a barrier

but if you have a hot rod to stick

through it that was not a sexual

reference it just sounded like it don't

stick your hot rod through butter

you can I just don't recommend it

um

so look at my exact situation

people are mad at me for what I said

in the future

are they mad at me for something I said

in the future no that's not possible are

they mad at first at me for something

I'm saying right now like in the present

nope nope they're mad at me for the past

now look what look what you miss if

that's your focus

if your focus is mad at me from the past

does that ignore the fact that I'm the

most persuasive person in the realm of

personal success and I've just told you

how to be personally successful in a way

that

is very likely to work for just about

everybody

I'm offering for free you don't have to

buy my book I'll tell you everything you

want for free

right now somebody's going to buy the

book because it's it's packaged in a way

but that's not the point in fact if you

tried to buy my book you couldn't

you couldn't buy my books and try

they're all banned at the moment so I

think they're out of stock yeah no so

it's not about selling the books I'd

love I'd love to sell some books I

usually do things for more than one

reason so if somebody bought my books

that'd be great but I will give it all

to you for free and I do it all the time

I how many times do I describe what's in

the book for free on live stream so if

you look at me as somebody who said

something you didn't like in the past

you would be blind to the fact that I

just opened up

you know this Trove of useful things

that I want to give you for free that

absolutely will change your life in a

positive way

now if that sounds absurd to anybody

who's new to me I'm going to do an

exercise that I often do

can I deliver that

the people who know me you've been

around can I deliver I'm giving you

tools that would make you more

successful based on your own experience

can I deliver

locals all say yes because they've

watched me the longest

YouTube the people who know me say yes

right this is a real asset

right as all you have to do is remove

your past blindness

stop looking at the rear view mirror and

look at me I'm standing in the road

right in front of your car with a big

barrel of cash

who sought

in in this entire drama

who was able to see me standing in the

front of the highway with a big barrel

of cash and it was for free it's free

cash

right now that was the frame that I was

trying to reframe I was trying to

reframe from looking at the past

to frame it as looking at the future

always works

if you have the right tools but also you

need to fix the systemic racism in the

schools because if you don't get schools

right nothing else Works basically I

mean it works it's pretty hard

all right so I believe I put into the

world the idea that you should stop uh

pursuing anything that's a backwards

looking strategy for success

now that's called The High Ground

maneuver which I've discussed as the

most powerful

persuasion technique

literally no one can disagree with

looking forward instead of backwards

because if you said it out loud you

would sound stupid

you would sound stupid if you said you

know I hear what you're saying Scott but

I really do like focusing on the past

nobody could even say that in public

because it sounds so stupid right and

yet everybody was doing it

not just black people everybody was

doing it everybody was focusing on the

past

and when you deal with me you're

focusing on the past too if all you can

about is something I said in the

past recent past recent past

still passed

the recent past is still the past

yeah it's different

all right so

um that should act like an ear worm you

know how earworms are you hear music and

you can't get out of your head

the people who heard you should not

focus on the past

are going to have a hard time forgetting

that would you agree

it's a reframe that and this is how

reframes work one of the magic of

reframes is that a good one you only

have to hear once

such as alcohol as poison

just thinking of alcohol as poison is it

reframe that actually makes it easier to

stop drinking has been proven many times

so yeah a good reframe gets in your mind

and it can't get out and especially if

it's a high ground maneuver

zero people now you saw at the end of

the if you watch the Cuomo interview he

brought in a few guests to get a

Counterpoint which I thought was good

technique now you could argue that I

should have also been on to Counterpoint

the Counterpoint but at some point you

know at some point it becomes too much

so I was I was happy with that even even

not having a response to the responses

that was fair because you know it's the

real world

but did you see any of the people say

that you should have a backwards Focus

did anybody disagree with my primary

purpose and reframe I don't think so

right

so

here um here are the things that uh

that I think were not uh focused on

did and you saw I didn't see the guest

talk I only heard some quotes so you'll

have to fact check me on this did the

guests see it on later I guess was Dan

Abrams and

uh some of the Eric Dyson

and then another gentleman whose name I

can't remember anyway did any of them

accuse me of being a right-wing uh Maga

or a racist

did that did anyone say that no no

because once you heard the context that

no longer made sense

so was I successful at least in the

interview not in the world but in the

interview was I successful in reframing

myself as not a right wing crazy

yes or no

yes right so that that would be a big

success communication wise wouldn't it

because that would be an objective

um

remember how in the first days of my

Scandal everybody was focused on the

quality and usefulness of the pole the

Rasmussen Pole

by the end of me giving the context

was anybody still complaining about

depending on the poll knowing that I

didn't depend on the poll

I don't think they talked about it did

they

so that would be a successful

communication

um

how about their focus on you had to know

that there would be trouble yeah

everybody's been saying the same thing

you had to know you had to know and then

you suffered the consequence

did you see that I agreed with that and

have from the beginning you had to know

yeah of course I knew it was a risk it

was a calculated risk but why did you do

it if you had to know well I was using

hyperbole but you had to know yes I had

to know that's why I did it

I knew that it would cause trouble

that's the reason I did it but you had

to know it would cause trouble

okay how many times do I have to say I

knew it would cause trouble

before you'll agree with me I knew it

would cause trouble that's why I did it

okay I hear you but

you had to know it caused trouble

yeah I don't know if you noticed that a

lot of the conversations are starting to

take that form

but

um yeah did you notice that

right

so

but then there was uh why am I

complaining remember people kept saying

why are you complaining because you knew

there was you know the risk

and I say when did I complain

I've described

but I've never complained once

I I think they accepted that because

they have no I mean there's no

counterfactual nobody seemed to complain

I haven't complained privately

believe it or not I mean you there's no

way to know that but even privately I

have not complained

because I'm not I'm not processing it as

a complaint

do you know why I don't process it as a

complaint

guess why

why do I not process what I'm doing as a

well why don't I feel like I should

complain do you know why

because I'm not looking at the past

I'm looking at the future and you know

what the future kicked up

the future just kicked up me as the most

prominent voice on an important trend

and

put me exactly where I wanted to be

if you would ask me in advance Scott

this is going to cost you

uh here's the number

it's going to cost you this many dollars

but you get to be exactly where you are

now would you take the deal

yep

yeah I would

I would

now I know that doesn't make sense to a

normal person

and I've never claimed I'm normal so I

get that you wouldn't make the choice I

get that

but I'm pretty comfortable with it

pretty comfortable

all right what else um

I made the claim and Chris allowed me to

interrupt him

um

to make this point because for a moment

it looked like we were going to go to

break or something before I made an

important point I claim that everyone

who understood the context agreed with

me

uh but for a minute it looked like maybe

that point was getting lost and there

was some um let's say disagreement that

quote everybody agreed with me and then

I got a chance this is why you won an

hour right this is exactly why

offering me an hour is exactly the right

thing to do

uh so I interrupted him because I had

time right if I didn't have time I

couldn't have done it but I had time to

interrupt and say no I just want to

clarify it's only the people who've seen

the context who are okay with it

and I got I got to like really focus on

that

um in the end uh I think Chris Cuomo

disagreed with me being canceled

um I couldn't hear at that point but I

think that happened right

if you saw it

would you would you call that a

let's say a communication goal achieved

because if if the host actually says you

shouldn't be

canceled after hearing the whole context

and really listening to it

that's it that's about as good as it

gets right now I never wanted him to to

agree

with the the way I said it I never asked

them to agree with the hyperbole because

the whole point of the hyperbole is that

it makes you mad

now if you saw it there was a point

where he asked a really good question

and I think it was based on a caller's

uh concern

um you know what do you say to the

caller who was hurt

like her feelings were hurt by you know

my my statements

and

under many normal circumstances that

would be a normal apology situation but

I would I think I would hold an apology

for this world

anybody in this world the real one who

wants an apology I'd probably give it to

him

I'd probably give it to him and I

wouldn't even I don't think I'd hesitate

if somebody was standing in front of me

and said

you know hey you made me feel bad I'd

probably say something like this well

I'm sorry it made you feel bad but I had

a I had a purpose in mind and all change

is painful

I hope you can get over it and hey how

about let's not focus on the past I've

got some really good tools for you that

would make you more successful are you

interested

so

um

let's see what else so when the uh

oh let me say that there I did have a

blind spot which I think explains a lot

uh here's my blind spot which I think

fills in the biggest mystery because

when people said you had to know it

would happen

that sounds uh that sounds incomplete

because I uh

you know I say I was surprised that it

was that big

and people say how can you possibly be

surprised that the reaction was that big

and

that's a

wouldn't you like to know that why was I

surprised that the reaction was that big

doesn't that seem like a blind spot

because I was surprised I was genuinely

surprised I knew there'd be a reaction

that was a point

all right here's why

it is impossible

to sit here and talk to

um

two computer screens

and feel my impact on the world

you can't feel it is there's a total

illusion when you're famous that you're

not famous

did you know that

I speculate that what one of the reasons

that somebody like uh Michael Jordan

talks about himself with a third party

like Michael Jordan would never do that

or Michael Jordan isn't going to let you

lose the game in the last second like

like he's a different person

it's because you're you know public

person and you're a real person or

completely different

um so did I underestimate my own let's

say

uh

I won't say importance did I

underestimate

my impact on other people's minds

and I think I did or influence maybe

yeah reach reach maybe so I

underestimated my reach and my influence

now the reach of course was accelerated

by the fact that as I talked about on

the show and I didn't see anybody

disagree that we've monetized outrage

so I definitely underestimated the

effectiveness of the monetization of

outrage because I didn't think they

would get to my choke points right I did

think some newspapers might bail out

that was a risk but I didn't think

they'd get to my actual distributor

if you can turn the distributor off then

all the newspapers turn off at the same

time which is what happened and the same

with my books yeah it's not like they

have to cancel a book they went after

the publisher and the publisher had my

entire backlog of books plus the new one

so with one cancellation they can get my

whole catalog of books so that that's

what happened now I didn't that was not

something I saw coming

so if you want to call me Dom or say I

have a blind spot because I didn't

realize that people cared enough about

my opinion I mean honestly I didn't

think people cared enough about my

opinion I really didn't that was sort of

a surprise but I'm not sure they cared

about the opinion so much as the outrage

machine is so well oiled and everybody

gets a Payday uh click click click click

click click everybody gets a Payday so I

think I had not estimated how

efficiently the cancellation machine is

in February 2023. so that's on me

would you agree

that's on me

so because one of the things that people

want to say is you're not taking

responsibility no I'm trying to take it

as hard as possible

I'm trying I'm trying to take as much

responsibility as I could possibly can

if there's anything I'm leaving out

remind me and I'll take that

responsibility too I'm a hundred percent

responsibility

for what I did

now I'm not responsible for the fact

that we have a backwards looking world

and you know there's a cancellation

Machinery that operates efficiently

that's for other people to work on

but I'm completely responsible for any

risk management decision I make if it

goes wrong

and then other people just don't know

how to do uh statistics

uh well let me get to this point so one

of the guests uh who came on they did a

little mind reading so one of the guests

had two complaints which he emphasized

on Twitter today uh he he's surprised

that I was baffled by the outcome that

was his words

I was baffled by the cancellation

have does that word fit anything that

happened

because what I thought happened was it

was a calculated risk and one of the one

of the outcomes was complete

cancellation of course it was it wasn't

my expectation

but of course it was an obvious risk and

and he read my mind and after all this

decided that I was baffled that I got

canceled

now baffled is one of those words you

use when you don't have an argument

if you don't have an argument you read

somebody's mind and then you

characterize it in a weird way and then

you criticize your own characterization

of the thing you mind read

that's called winning the conversation

for me if I could give somebody's only

best argument to be that they imagined I

was baffled

when the evidence suggests exactly the

opposite

but the way I did have I did have a

blind spot that's true but I wasn't

baffled that you know that was always a

possibility

then this other was uh

he says he disagrees that I said it was

the quote only way to fight racism

did I say anything like that

did anybody hear me say that getting

canceled was the only way to fight

racism

nothing like that

so when somebody has to literally make

up an opinion for you assign it to you

and then argue you shouldn't have that

opinion

who won the conversation

that that's me winning as hard as you

can win that's like

game over

all right

Dan Abrams argued and uh keep in mind

that he was an attorney right

so he's somebody who's really good at

arguing and breaking down logic and

stuff all right so the guy who's a

professional

logical communicator

had this to say he said I can't have it

both way both ways claiming that I was

using hyperbole but I was also taken out

of context

so he lawyered me and he said ah I found

a technical problem with the argument

you can't use hyperbole or say you used

hyperbole but also a completely

different excuse that you were taken out

of context

to which I say

the hyperbole was the specific sentence

the context is why I said it

yes Dan Abrams you can use Hyperbole and

be taken out of context there's

absolutely no conflict between those two

things they work together really well

yes hyperbole yes also take it out of

context

and that was his best I think that was

his best criticism

keep in mind that none of the points I

made were involved in the criticism

right the criticism is that you can't

have it both ways

when obviously you can

quite easily and it doesn't take much to

convince you it's true

that was the best he had

he's a lawyer

he's a smart guy he does this for a

living

well he does this for a living and that

was his best take

that that's all he had

can I win any harder than that

seriously would it be even possible to

win harder than that I don't think so

um and then there were some Professor

guy

who somebody said that he was doubting

that a qualified black applicant would

have an advantage in a big Corporation

in America that is desperate to increase

their diversity

did that actually happen

did he actually doubt the fact

that a qualified black employee would

have an advantage in Corporate America

I didn't know that anybody questioned

that

but if there are other people in Black

America who believe that's true think of

the opportunity they just opened up

imagine imagine if that's a common

opinion

and imagine some number of black

Americans watched the show

because there were a number of Collins

so I know he's got black Watchers

viewers

so imagine you're a black American and

you heard me say no if you get a good

education you're going to actually be at

the top of the hiring list imagine you'd

never heard that before

because I've actually heard other other

black Americans say that they said no

that's not true there's no favoritism in

Corporate America and and I have to

explain the long story of

it is so true it's like the truest thing

that's ever been true like there's no

gray area this is the truest of all true

things it just doesn't apply to small

companies

so I think that's where the confusion is

if your experiences with small companies

yeah they're probably pretty racist so

that would be a good strategy to not get

a job at the Korean supermarket right

have I ever advised a young black man to

get an education and you know while he's

working through school go work at the

Korean grocery store

I don't know if they're going to

discriminate

but I'd worry about it yeah go where go

where you have a a an advantage

in bias

because the world is going to give you

both you know bias advantages and bias

disadvantages go where you have an

advantage

black or white go where you have an

advantage and that would be Corporate

America if you're black if you're white

start your own business

if you're a white man in America I would

not get into the corporate world

you know unless it's a special case you

know it's like all you've lived for all

your life or something but it's really

not not the best statistical

statistically it's not your best

strategy your best strategy would be

start your own business if you can

all right and by the way that would be a

great strategy for black Americans but a

good way to do it is to get some

corporate experience and connections and

build up some money and stuff and then

start a business that's not a bad way to

do it so two ways to do it

all right that ladies and gentlemen is

my review of it if you haven't seen it

go take a look and see if my

characterization of it feels fair to you

uh again big thank you to Chris Cuomo I

think that was a solid contribution to

journalism frankly

um it's the best thing that's happened

so far uh except Hotel was great

um the hotel Jesus interview I thought

was terrific and I'm very appreciative

for that

all right

um did you learn anything

did you learn anything about Media

communication

hope so

uh and somebody says no

there's always a no

all right that's all for now I'm gonna

go talk to the locals people privately

thanks for joining everybody on YouTube

see you tomorrow