Episode 1508 Scott Adams - Lots of Red Meat Stories About Politics Today and the Simultaneous SIP

good morning everybody and welcome to probably the best thing you'll ever experience it's called coffee with scott adams and i know some of you are new to this and you're saying to yourself this doesn't look so good what's the big deal about this but you haven't had the simultaneous sip right if you've experienced a simultaneous sip you know the pure joy of feeling everybody in the world who's watching this at the same time enjoying the same simultaneous sip and you're gonna enjoy it too all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass a tanker chelsea steiner canteen jugger flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine of the day the thing that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous sip and this is what makes you addicted it's going to happen now go john says it's his first day of sipping but he's been listening for months oh there are others like you aren't there there are other people watching who are thinking to themselves i'm not going to do the sip okay i'll watch the content but i'm not going to do the simultaneous sip don't manipulate me hypnotist not gonna do it oh you'll do it oh you will do it you just don't know it yet because you'll want to i don't have to talk you into it you're going to want it you're going to want it so good i feel sorry for the people who aren't doing this i think i'll take another one don't yeah don't do it don't be manipulated into it no matter how good it is no matter how much you would enjoy it do not let me manipulate you into taking a sip of a delicious beverage just because i want you to that's no reason oh my god it goes down just as good as it goes past the taste buds but don't do this you do you enjoy it you know everybody's different one more wow yeah but you do you all right let's get to the news rasmussen tells us just what i expected do you know what kind of polls i like the kind of polls i like are the ones that agree with me those are the good ones the ones that don't agree with the i call those bogus but the ones that agree with me pretty pretty accurate well rasmussen has a poll that says if trump ran against biden today do you know how he'd do well according to registered likely voters 51 would vote for trump and only 41 percent would vote for biden now who told you who told you that trump would get more popular after he left office i did and it's happening because you're gonna you're gonna forget all the individual outrages because there were so many of them they'll just sort of lump together but you're gonna remember what he did you're gonna remember the border was better the economy was good china was you know being pushed back you're gonna remember all that now i worry about a poll where people have just two choices here because i think you know i think people probably would just vote their party line in the end but suppose trump ran against harris according to rasmussen 52 would say trump 39 would say harris so the two strongest democrats in the world in the country let's say would both lose to trump if they had an election today so um i would say my my prediction that trump would grow in popularity once out of office it's kind of looking good it's kind of looking good i think there's another level after this i think the level after this is where we've really forgotten you know all the all the acrimony and you know the mean tweets and stuff i think that the distant historians are going to be the kindest to trump because his his accomplishments will last and his outrages will seem unimportant all right glenn greenwald continues to be one of the best follows on twitter and one of the most interesting public characters i would say so if you're not following glenn greenwald you're really missing a good show i mean his twitter feed is like i would pay for it you know it's almost subscription quality compared to other other tweets but uh he says today that uh in a tweet huge numbers of corporate media outlets spent weeks peddling an outright lie from the cia that the biden emails were quote russian disinformation do you remember that do you remember when uh all the talking heads were saying oh those those emails that's probably russian disinformation so glenn says that was the cia gaslighting the country and and as uh greenwald says and now we'll ignore the fact that one of their own a political reporter just published a book definitively debunking their lives so politico i don't know who it is but some political reporter has a book i guess and greenwald goes on he says these are the same people who spread the cia lie that russians put bounties on the heads of u.s soldiers and trump did nothing about it same people who spread the now debunked trump alpha bank lie that was the idea that there was some kind of private server that trump had that was connected to some bank which somehow i didn't even uh i didn't even see that story when it happened originally now what do you think do you believe is it true or false i want to say to your comments true or false do you believe that the cia planted all three of these stories and he doesn't even mention russia and collusion uh you know the trump collusion story doesn't even mention that one was that cia so in the comments how many of you believe it i'm seeing only yeses i see one now on locals i see it maybe um well it looks like youtube is uh very much believing it and locals do looking at both platforms your comments yeah you do believe it don't you so here you are in a country in which your most important industry to protect your freedom which is the press you believe doesn't exist you okay with that are you okay with that yeah you can throw in the fbi i guess is part of this how are we okay with the fact that the cia is making up stories and the corporate press is just printing them like it's real could that be a more dangerous situation have we already lost everything but it's weird that because when you say the cia did something is it always the same people is it is it the head of the cia who makes these decisions or is it just people associated with you know into people making up their own projects you know how is this happen well it feels real to me to me it feels real that the news is not real and that at least the political parts a lot of it are just literally just made up by the sea our own cia now can i prove it nah i don't have any proof but you've seen yeah you've seen clapper and brennan uh on tv lying lying to the public you've seen that so i don't think you trust these entities whatsoever now here's a question for you the media i would say the media has two major forms at this point what are the forums uh is you know the regular legacy media the fox news and the cnns and stuff but the other part of the media is people like me pundits if you believe that all of the major media legacy platforms have been let's say captured by the cia if you believe that's the case what about the independent voices what about the people that you follow on twitter who have you know gigantic followings and seem to be independent voices has the cia also captured them what do you think has the cia captured the independent political voices the people with just social media followings yeah yeah you're a little worried now aren't you a little bit worried now now let me ask you this do you think i know the answer to that question definitively so here's your new question i'll wait i'll wait for you to be done answering this because there's lag here do you think that i know the answer to the question of whether the cia is also co-opting individual voices who are not part of legacy news because i would be one of those people right so if they had never contacted me well let me ask you this do you think any intelligence agencies have tried to co-opt me and your comments have any intelligence agencies us or other tried to co-opt me on politics yeah of course yes the answer is yes have they succeeded have they succeeded in co-opting me i'm looking at your answers you say no no no no well you're wrong hate to tell you they've co-opted me now when i say they've co-opted me that doesn't mean that i'm you know saying anything that i wouldn't normally say but one of the things that is the subtle way that people like me get influenced is by what stories we see and which ones are brought to our attention so when i talk about the news i talk about the things that have come to my attention how does stuff come to my attention what do you think is my process for deciding what stories to focus on no scott did not just admit to being a sellout listen to the rest of the story right i'm i'm open to hearing your uh your opinions after you've heard it but maybe maybe wait till after after you've heard it and then make your decision okay all right so here's how people like me decide what the news we're going to talk about is often people send me stuff people you know you can see it yourself you can watch it in real time you see people tweet things at me and then i say oh that's interesting and then i talk about it do you think that anybody is tweeting at me things they would like me to spend more time on who may or may not be associated with intelligence agencies so that's the model how many think that that's happening that there are people associated with maybe not on the payroll i'm not talking people i'm not talking actual spies i'm talking people associated with because you know intelligence agencies don't work with just people they pay they they have an extended family of you know connections that do things for them so i would say that i'm not necessarily aware of who works for who well i can say that for sure i am not necessarily aware of who works for who i have some ideas i have some ideas if somebody sends me a story that seems to be pro-israel do i say to myself oh i wonder who this person is and i wonder if they have any connections with you know israel intelligence or or the government and i often assume they do but if the story is what i like and it's been brought to my attention yeah i'll talk about it because it's something i like and it's in my wheelhouse and it's what i would have talked about anyway and i know about it so i talk about it so it works the the way that somebody like me can be influenced is just by what stories i talk about so i believe that um some number of stories that get sent to me through a variety of channels you know usually individuals who say hey i think you'd be interested in this some number of them are intelligence agency connected now some of them i know meaning i know they're connected and some of them i assume they're connected so i use that filter when i see stuff so you know there's no time when i don't say to myself why did somebody give this to me right so at the very least i'm aware of it and i try to do what i can to you know monitor my own bias but can i succeed at that i don't think so i don't think you can completely succeed at that i'm not i'm not talking about any one person yeah there's a universe of you know maybe 20 to 50 people who might send me things on any given topic and i just assume that there they have some connections or uh or some say affinity for different countries all right um are there any major media outlets that are captured by our cia what do you think are there any major media companies that are not captured by the cia do you think and what would it be somebody says cnn okay that i hope that's a joke right because cnn would not be on the top of my list of non-captured entities yeah you know i don't know i don't know the answer to that because it's it's always a matter of degree right it's not so much that you know some something is completely captured and something is not i think it's all a matter of degree yeah and i would say that the independent political voices such as myself i think we're trying to be independent for the most part i mean i speak for myself but we have to be influenced i mean you can't turn off influence if somebody tries to influence you they're and they're good at it it's probably gonna work my friends with bob dole that is the weirdest question in the world i've never met bob dole but how weird all right black lives matter blm is threatening an uprising against what they call the racist vaccine mandates did you see that coming the racist vaccine mandates because i guess since the black population has low vaccination rates it would be bigger burden on them if vaccination mandates are required blm might actually go to the streets about that but here's the here's the weird thing um can black lives matter agree with the republicans this aggressively and what happens if they do what would happen if just i'm just going to put this out here this could actually happen imagine a black lives matter rally against vaccine mandates so just imagine that happens and then imagine that conservatives say we're in we're in and there are just as many conservatives that show up clearly conservatives like you could just look at them and go okay that's probably a trump supporter there and watch them uh march at the same time with black lives matter because they have a shared a shared idea on this one topic could that happen could it why wouldn't it happen what would stop it from happening would anything stop it from happening in fact i would say that the main reason that black lives matter will not go to the streets is that republicans will join them right it's the main reason i don't think it's going to happen because the black lives matter their whole uh the whole deal kind of falls apart if they go to the street and 5 000 uh conservatives join them and just say we're with you boom we're with you that's it no arguments no fighting we're with you now i'm not sure this is the fight that i would recommend anybody be in that's a separate topic but it could be could be could be strange bedfellows and i would tell you that the next thing that black lives matter and conservatives might agree on is school choice and the problems with the teachers unions again there's pretty much complete agreement that we need more school choice it's a conservative thing and it's it's a it's a black interest thing right both would benefit maybe in different ways but both would benefit from that kind of a change to society i could see them i could see them get getting together twice and the way to do it is to just say that reparations means fixing schools it's the best you can do i mean some people would like reparations to be some kind of cash payment but since that's never going to happen i don't think why don't you do what you can do what you can do is fix the biggest source of systemic racism which is the teachers unions and the republicans would be all over that so black lives matter and republicans maybe haven't figured it out yet but they're on the same side on the biggest issue which you could call reparations you could call a systemic racism that's what you know black lives matters would call it but the republicans would call it where is my freedom why can't i go to a school i want to go to or take my kids to an optional better school so they'd have different reasons for why they want school choice but both of them would be getting a better school right i mean i guess it's the same reason in the end better school but you would describe it differently in terms of why you want better schools i don't know we might be i've been predicting for some time that there would be a strange coming together of black lives matter and conservatives that it was almost inevitable i feel like i feel like it's inevitable that the black population in this country is going to start courting conservatives partly because they agree on so much you've got a at the very least there's a religious connection right you know highly religious black population pretty religious republicans very religious there's a lot they could come together on and i feel like it's going to happen because it's you know as soon as black lives matter realizes that republicans are not against them or let's say not against black people but rather pro-freedom and pro-competition and all those things i think i think they can figure it out they can get together so i'm going to keep that that will be my most counter-intuitive prediction of all time although i got a few good ones lately i'm going to say that black lives matter will explicitly so i'm going to i'm going to put this in the form of a prediction black lives matter will explicitly join forces with republicans on at least one topic maybe more because if the first one works you would do more but but there'll be at least one topic where they i'll go even further i'm going to make it physical here's my prediction black lives matter and conservatives will march together in the street within two years that's my prediction within two years republicans and black lives matter will march march together on some topic within two years all right um the debate over nuclear energy has officially ended does that even sound possible the debate over nuclear energy it just ended so uh jennifer uh granholm who's the secretary of uh energy right um she just gave a big speech and made it as clear as you could possibly make it climate change is an emergency this is her framing and you can't handle it without nuclear and that nuclear energy is now safer and the new technologies are safe compared to other things and and you don't need fusion for this fusion would be great but it's not necessary in this model now here's the weird part of the story don't know if you remember how much i was trying to get the trump administration to say as strongly as jennifer grenholm did that nuclear power has to be in the future it has to be a big part of the future and the the trump administration was always pro-nuclear and they did a lot of pro-nuclear things in terms of setting up test sites for nuclear technologies et cetera so they acted right the trump administration but they didn't really make a big deal about it trump himself hardly ever mentioned it and certainly never made a big point of it it was usually just sort of mentioned in a list but imagine if you will that trump had been pro-nuclear like a big deal as much as he was um build the wall imagine if trump had been nuclear nuclear nuclear you got to build some nuclear that would have made it impossible for democrats to do it wouldn't it it would be like the wall the democrats can't accept a wall even though they want one because it was trump's wall am i right don't you think there are a lot of democrats who'd kind of like to have a wall now not so much that they stop everybody from coming in but at least we have the option of you know regulating it the way we want to regulate it not the way some entity wants to regulate it so i feel as if we got to this uh complete agreement and i'm going to say complete agreement meaning that democrats and republicans are both strongly pro-nuclear now at least at the higher levels so i'll call that the agreement there's obviously citizens will take a while to catch up but um this is amazing and i don't think it would have happened if trump had been way way way more pro-nuclear i think the only way this could happen is that trump was kind of quiet about it right because it's not that it's not that polarized and it could have been um so here's my question to you how did this happen what happened what happened in the last say five years that made nuclear energy go from a highly polarizing topic to complete agreement what happened what do you think happened um i'm just looking at your schellenberger right i think that's what happened i think michael schellenberger is a big part of the story but we'll never know how much so let me let me complete the pieces here so many of you know that mark schneider was a big advocate of nuclear worked in the industry still works in the industry i think and um and he taught me everything i know and i i would talk continuously about nuclear being needing to be a bigger deal now also michael sheldenberger who's written books on the topic and included you know it's in books on the topic and he's testified to congress twice i think at least twice and if you haven't heard the the michael schellenberger presentations on all this green energy stuff and nuclear you really have to because he's got the whole package right he's got the whole persuasion package and i think he sold it to congress i mean they called him in for that purpose to find out you know find out what's what now i see you mentioning bjorn lomborg and he would be the other you know biggest name that i can think of in the same category but i don't know if he testified did he ever testify to congress because he's not american i don't know if he did i doubt it i don't i think i would have remembered hearing it anyway um so i'm gonna say congratulations to the people who put in the time um i feel like i tried to help as much as possible i don't know if i did but tried and um it looks like it happened i mean was there any five years ago if i said to you if i said to you five years ago i think we'll have a complete agreement on this nuclear energy thing would you believe that i mean it seemed like if something was just going to be a permanent division now like i said the public still hasn't caught up but the fact that both republicans and democrats are pro-nuclear now that's the end of the debate because the public will catch up yeah somebody says honestly it wasn't even on your radar yeah that's true all right uh fox news uh and i'm gonna give them credit for this i don't know if they came up with it but do you remember when uh kids in cages was the big story that kids in cages story was really powerful wasn't it because it wasn't just oh immigration is going to be really bad for a lot of people that doesn't feel it's not visual doesn't hit you in the in the fields but then you say we're putting kids in cages now was that true well you know sort of they were fenced in areas um calling them cages makes it ten times worse how it sounds so yeah it was true-ish ish you know you you could make the argument but it was so visual meaning that you would not only see the pictures of it some of the pictures were fake but you still remember them but you'd have a in your mind a perfect picture of it so that's what made it so devastatingly uh effective and now fox news and and the right has come up with their response to kids in cages it's called haitians under a bridge haitians under a bridge do you know how much the under the bridge part adds to the story a lot same as the cages it's not just kids and it's not just haitians it's kids in cages and it's haitians under a bridge because as soon as you add the under a bridge the movie is complete right you don't need all the details you just see a massive humanity under a bridge and you can see it it's it's the so here's your persuasion lesson for the day adding the under a bridge really sells this story just like adding in cages sold the story before so once you see a play that works for once one team you can pretty much depend on the other team giving that technique a try and and here it's happening and it's working it looks like it's you know it captures our imagination in a very similar way i mean kids is obviously uh you know the ultimate if you could do something about a story where kids are being injured that's your ultimate persuasion but haitians have something going for them too don't they what the haitians have going for them is that they're black and in this country if there's a story about a massive uh group of black people being mistreated that's a damn big story right because you got you know kids in cages haitians you know black people under being forced to live under bridges horrible conditions it does add that extra spice to the story and not in a good way but it does so anyway good uh good persuasion play from the right whoever came up with that uh i tweeted a story for you to debunk there's some claim i'm not i won't even tell you who it is but there there's a tweet and a tweet thread claiming that india beat the delta variant when they uh introduced ivermectin and there's it comes complete with graphs that i don't believe etc so i asked my skeptics to debunk that i think it'll be debunked by the time we're done here i haven't checked the comments yet but it looked really persuasive if you had only seen the claim you absolutely would be convinced if you've never seen any pushback on it it looks very convincing there's a graph and it shows that the time that ivermectin was put into place and then the graph falls and then you compare it to the united states and the you know other countries and we're just going up but allegedly i don't know if any of this is true but allegedly india went up and then ivermectin and it went way down did that really happen because it's a it's an outrageously specific claim with stuff that could all be checked publicly now i don't have the time to check it that's why i was asking other people to look at it but somebody says curry i don't think so um anyway so i'll just put that out there that i don't think there's anything true to that story but i'd love to be wrong that would be fun what did uh oh ivormectin sounds good until you listen to the z dog yeah um all right so i'm going to call that b that story bs that india beat the delta with ivermectin i don't think that's true but i'll let the skeptics tear that apart um the new story about hunter biden i guess business insider has this breaking news uh allegedly hunter biden asked there's some new emails of hunter biden that have been discovered not from the laptop so they're hunter biden emails allegedly but not from the laptop so you have to wonder if they're real that's the first question all right apparently uh hunter biden asked for a retainer of two billion dollars per year plus a success fee because two million a year not enough you also need a success fee to help unfreeze money belonging to the libyan government this was in 2015 while his father was still vice president what what am i really really is this real and now it's breaking news so like most news you should say to yourself maybe it's not real you know it could be a fake email that somebody got or something but what if this is real if this is real how is hunter biden going to unfreeze libyan money with all of his libyan unfreezing money connections that he personally had not through his father who was vice president of the united states there's no conceivable way that he could have gotten this job done without his father is there or dealing with people who want to make his father happy but it's the same thing so here's what's going to happen i feel like nothing i feel like this story will come out we will believe it is true and nothing will happen right doesn't it feel like nothing's going to happen because this is clearly a crime isn't it or if it's not a crime it's something terrible uh now apparently the the project didn't go forward so maybe that gives them an out because it didn't happen it was just an offer but oh my god oh my god if this is true oh my god i mean it's as bad as the other stuff we've already heard but it's additive to that rico interesting i'm seeing in the comments uh there could be a ricoh case i don't know could there i don't know anything about that stuff so but but to the point that it would be an organized conspiracy i know i wouldn't rule it out all right uh tucker carlson being uh provocative being provocative again i'm gonna tell you what he said and then i'll give you my comments on it um so he quoted joe biden in uh 22 in 2015 i guess or so made this comments so joe biden said somewhere quote an unrelenting stream of immigration nonstop non-stop folks like me who are caucasian of european descent for the first time in 2017 will be an absolute minority in the united states of america absolute minority fewer than 50 percent of the people in america from then on will be white european stock that's not a bad thing that's a source of our strength all right so the key words here are that biden says that having lots of immigration and making the united states not majority white european is quote not a bad thing and quote a source of our strength so to that tucker says he goes that's the reason to reduce the political power of people so this is tucker's commentary that biden has admitted that it's to reduce the political power of people whose ancestors lived here and dramatically increased the proportion of americans newly arrived from the third world and then tucker said that biden went further and said that non-white dna is a source of our strength did that happen did biden say that non-white dna is the source of our strength did you hear that in the quote right so that's that's tucker's summary that biden said that non-white dna is the source of our strength let me read his exact quote again biden said that we'll be no longer a majority white european and he said that's not a bad thing that's the source of our strength all right so i'm seeing in the comments most people say yeah you said it right there there's the quote there's tucker's interpretation that interpretation is correct right i'm saying only yeses to that it's right here so tucker's interpretation is accurate right because i read you the quote i read you the interpretation and you're saying yeah that's it oh wait now i'm seeing some nose where did all the nose come from all of a sudden did you think i was tricking you now it's all nose i'm seeing in the comments nope no biden did not say what tucker says he says uh my interpretation of what biden said when he when he said that's not a bad thing that's the source of our strength who's us who's our who's our strength the united states right so can you say that um moving from a majority white european stock to a more diverse mix would be the argument that that makes us stronger so tucker's interpretation seems to be that it brings in better dna the brown people have better dna than the white people who are already there i will think that's what that's saying i don't think that's what biden's saying to me it looks like biden is saying that what makes the united states great is that we're diverse now do you think that diversity has ever helped the united states well it certainly helped when we got those german scientists after world war ii i don't know if you want to call that diverse but i don't know how many other nazis or nazi you know sympathizers or workers or anything well i wouldn't call them sympathizers but i don't know how many people from the nazi regime we brought to the united states but it helped didn't it there's a little diversity that helped that's a weird example i know but do you buy the argument that diversity is an advantage see that's the area tucker took it in a different direction with dna i don't think that was ever the intention i think it was just diversity diversity well i'm i'm going to give you the counter argument i'm seeing lots of people say no here's here's the frame i'd put on it what is it about the united states that made it work right well a lot of things we had lots of natural resources and stuff like that we didn't have a world war ii on our on our shores so there were lots of things that made the united states work and some of it was luck but i would argue that the biggest thing that makes it work is how people got here meaning that the people who said to heck with this country i'm in i'm going to go make something happen somewhere else don't you think that that is a really selective group suppose you suppose you started with the population of the world you said all right i'm just going to put all the people who have the the following qualities in one country those will be the people who couldn't stand the country they were in because it wasn't free enough didn't give them enough options and they were going to take a tremendous risk to get out of there and improve their life right so that's the group that you filtered people who will take a big risk succeed because they don't get to this country unless they succeed succeed as something really really hard because the long-term advantage will be good how many of those do you want in your country how many people with that quality we're not talking about where they came from any culture doesn't matter the culture wherever they came from they took a gigantic risk to get here pulled it off made it work and they were planning for the distant future they weren't planning for what was happening today they were planning years in advance so their mindset was years in advance hard work risk and freedom and we got all of them well we didn't get all of them but but that's basically what makes up the united states right now i would argue that any time that yeah brave brave right risk takers i would argue that anytime you take the best of every culture those are the best right in my opinion the people who can make that work and are thinking so far in advance that they're thinking generations in advance literally they're thinking their children and grandchildren that's why they come here i would think that if you took those people out of every country and put them in one country that country would rule the world every time so in order for that to work picking i'm gonna say they're the best people from each culture if you take the best people from each culture the ones who have that quality about them that doesn't make you stronger remember all the no's you had and everybody said no no no there's no way diversity makes us stronger but i just gave you an argument where where we got the best of all the diverse cultures because they're the only ones who could get here the ones who weren't the best couldn't get here they didn't they they were just going to take care of what was happening right in front of them they were not long-term planners they weren't willing to take a risk they couldn't figure it out well that's the argument so they only want free stuff um i i think i think there's certainly a number of people who are not you know the cream of the crop you know that i mean everybody's different so you're not going to get only the cream of the crop but i think on average you're bringing in the good people and you also need people to do every other kind of job in society now here's another another thing to think of can the united states survive if our birth rate falls and what would happen to our natural birth rate if we didn't have massive immigration i'm not in fa i'm not in favor of massive immigration i'm just asking the question what would happen to our birth rate if we didn't have massive immigration it wouldn't sustain the country it's a problem we actually need young people economically it's a requirement where were they going to come from we weren't going to have them i mean i suppose we could have done some massive persuasion to get americans you know who are already here to have more babies i don't know that that would work i feel as if the one and only way that you can be economically viable is to bring in young people if you're not making young people you have to bring them in and bring in populations that have more more babies now am i arguing therefore that we should open the borders and just let everybody in now that's crazy the way we're doing it now crazy it's all wrong what i'm arguing and i've always argued is you need a totally secure border and then you can decide based on economics based on economics how many to let in in any given any given year and maybe what types of people led in so i think you have to control it but you gotta you gotta let in a good number of people i don't know what the right number is but you almost have to take immigration and you've got to treat it pretty seriously um i can't argue what the absolute number should be because i mean that would take a lot of research and i'm not even sure you could ever know that but i do know you need a lot of it we may have twice as much as we need right now but you need a lot of it and if you don't have it you're dead did i make my case uh with just the argument i gave that we're really at least and for the most part we're trying to pick off the risk takers and the and the higher quality people from each every country that can get here no all right so uh as per typical very rarely do people change their minds nope nope nope i'm saying lots of no's what would be your argument what would be your argument against the notion that we're filtering in the right kind of risk takers and the people who think ahead that's not who's coming rich guy no i'm i'm completely aware that there are tons and tons of you know just workers coming in because they heard they heard the crowd was moving north and they just got in the line so clearly there could be tons of people who are not the cream of the crop i'm not claiming that what i am claiming is that we're getting enough of the cream of the crop you know the risk takers that we come out ahead that would be the argument you come out ahead even though you bring in a lot of common laborers who were maybe just going to break even economically you don't need that many superstars right to start a billion dollar company etc yes legal immigration yes if i didn't say that explicitly i only favor legal immigration so i certainly don't favor whatever's happening now um diversity of appearance means nothing if people are thinking the same well i'm saying that we don't want diversity in one way there's one kind of diversity you don't want which is you don't want people who don't want to be successful you want the kind of diversity where it's all kinds of people but they want to make the world a better place like that's the diversity you want you don't want diversity of thought because like some of them are terrorists some of them don't want to work some of them just want you to take care of them i don't want that diversity that's the diversity of thought i don't want at all i want i want people who have some some shared notion of the united states and what success looks like and they want it that's who i want yeah i get more of those anyway i don't think tucker's uh interpretation of it was quite spot-on but very provocative as he always is different cultures have different thoughts true enough but i do think that the united states attracts people who have um on average compatible notions with freedom and capitalism um i never met an illegal immigrant that didn't want to get money to take back home so what's wrong with that what is wrong with that i mean the the money that they send back home is what keeps everybody home if they weren't sending money back home those people would be coming here too so i'm not sure that's the negative you think it is um just looking at some of your comments um you're dreaming if you let me just read this so hard as they're going by if you think that getting risk takers who are going to help grow our comedy we're seeing people because they're motivated by the takers um all right so the point here would be that uh the people coming here for free stuff are the the dominant thing maybe um but would it matter to my point let's say my point was that we're bringing the cream of the crop but you say to me scott scott scott you might be getting 10 percent like that but 90 are just people coming here for free stuff do you think those immigrants don't want to work how many do you think the immigrants came here for free stuff and and didn't think they were going to work hard i feel like zero we're getting the people who want to work more than americans want to work now when you say free stuff i would just say that it's a better life i think they want to give and get also i don't think they want to get without working i think they came here to work do you really not think they came here to work and i think they came here to work under a system that would reward them better than the system they were in what's wrong with that that's what we all do we're all doing that we're looking for the better system that treats us better for the same amount of work do you hate him for that all right so back to my point let's say we got 10 of the people i'm describing like the go-getters the risk takers the entrepreneurs the people planning ahead and you get 90 percent of the people who just want to work hard and have a better life did you come out ahead or behind that that's my scenario did you come out ahead or behind you only got 10 percent of the people who are awesome like really think ahead entrepreneurs going to make this country great 90 are just here because the crowd came here because it's a better life but they want to work hard no doubt they want to work hard come out ahead or behind i said john says behind how do you know are you an economist i i've got a degree in economics and i don't know i feel if i had to guess i'd say ahead but again it depends on amount right there's some amount of immigration that puts you behind there's some amount that would put you ahead i don't know where that cutoff point is but we ought to find it lyle says scott is surprised his audience is overwhelmingly racist no i'm not you think that surprised me my view uh all people are racist so i would expect all of my audiences to be racist all the time no matter who i was talking to it's just a complete illusion that they're non-racist they're just people who think of it different ways they communicate different but the thing that makes everybody racist is that your brain is a pattern recognition device you know your lawnmower can only be a lawn mower your dishwasher can only be a dishwasher dishwasher can't mow the lawn lawnmower can't clean your dishes all right your brain is just one thing it's a pattern recognition machine it can't be anything else and the problem is that you're bad at pattern recognition that's all you got and if you're bad at pattern recognition as we all are we're all fooled by the wrong patterns then you end up thinking well those elbonians they always wear hats and you know and eat bananas and fall on their faces because you saw three albonians like that so of course you're a racist you cannot be because your brain is just oriented that way now you can use your higher level thinking to get past it that would be awesome but you're starting as a racist so is my audience racist yeah because they're humans yeah of course they are all right that's all for now and i'll see

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all right let's get to the news

rasmussen tells us

just what i expected do you know what

kind of polls i like

the kind of polls i like

are the ones that agree with me

those are the good ones

the ones that don't agree with the i

call those bogus but the ones that agree

with me pretty pretty accurate well

rasmussen has a poll that says

if trump ran against biden today

do you know how he'd do

well according to registered likely

voters

51

would vote for trump

and only 41 percent would vote for biden

now

who told you

who told you that

trump would get more popular after he

left office

i did

and it's happening because you're gonna

you're gonna forget all the individual

outrages because there were so many of

them they'll just sort of lump together

but you're gonna remember what he did

you're gonna remember the border was

better the

economy was good

china was you know being pushed back

you're gonna remember all that

now i worry about a poll

where people have just two choices here

because i think

you know i think people probably would

just vote their party line in the end

but suppose trump ran against harris

according to rasmussen

52 would say trump

39 would say harris

so the two strongest

democrats in the world

in the country let's say

would both lose to trump if they had an

election today

so

um i would say my my prediction that

trump would grow in popularity once out

of office

it's kind of looking good

it's kind of looking good i think

there's another level after this

i think the level after this is where

we've really forgotten you know all the

all the acrimony and you know the mean

tweets and stuff i think that the

distant historians are going to be the

kindest to trump

because his his accomplishments will

last and his

outrages will seem unimportant

all right

glenn greenwald

continues to be one of the best follows

on twitter and one of the most

interesting public characters i would

say so if you're not following glenn

greenwald you're really missing a good

show

i mean his twitter feed is

like i would pay for it

you know it's almost subscription

quality compared to other other

tweets

but uh he says today

that uh in a tweet huge numbers of

corporate media outlets spent weeks

peddling an outright

lie from the cia

that the biden emails were quote russian

disinformation do you remember that

do you remember when uh

all the talking heads were saying oh

those those emails

that's probably russian disinformation

so glenn says that was the cia

gaslighting the country and

and as uh greenwald says and now we'll

ignore the fact that one of their own

a political reporter just published a

book

definitively debunking their lives

so politico i don't know who it is but

some political reporter has a book i

guess

and greenwald goes on he says these are

the same people who spread the cia lie

that russians put bounties on the heads

of u.s soldiers and trump did nothing

about it

same people who spread the now debunked

trump alpha bank lie that was the idea

that there was some kind of private

server that trump had that was connected

to some bank which somehow i didn't even

uh

i didn't even see that story when it

happened originally

now

what do you think do you believe

is it true or false i want to say to

your comments true or false

do you believe

that the cia

planted all three of these stories

and he doesn't even mention russia and

collusion

uh you know the trump collusion story

doesn't even mention that one

was that

cia

so in the comments how many of you

believe it

i'm seeing only yeses

i see one now on locals i see it maybe

um well it looks like youtube is uh very

much believing it and locals do

looking at both platforms your comments

yeah you do believe it don't you

so

here you are in a country in which your

most important

industry to protect your freedom

which is the press

you believe doesn't exist

you okay with that

are you okay with that

yeah you can throw in the fbi i guess is

part of this

how are we okay with the fact

that the cia

is making up stories

and the corporate press is just printing

them

like it's real

could that be a more dangerous situation

have we already lost everything

but it's weird that because when you say

the cia did something

is it always the same people

is it is it the head of the cia who

makes these decisions or is it just

people associated with you know into

people making up their own

projects you know how is this happen

well

it feels real to me

to me it feels real that the news is not

real

and that at least the political parts a

lot of it are just literally just made

up

by the sea our own cia

now can i prove it nah

i don't have any proof

but you've seen yeah you've seen clapper

and brennan uh on tv lying

lying to the public you've seen that so

i don't think you trust these

entities whatsoever

now here's a question for you

the media

i would say the media has two major

forms at this point

what are the forums

uh is you know the regular

legacy media the fox news and the cnns

and stuff but the other part of the

media is

people like me

pundits

if you believe that all of the major

media legacy platforms have been let's

say captured by the cia

if you believe that's the case

what about the independent voices

what about the people that you follow on

twitter who have you know gigantic

followings

and seem to be independent voices

has the cia also captured them

what do you think

has the cia captured the independent

political voices the people with just

social media followings

yeah

yeah you're a little worried now aren't

you

a little bit worried now

now let me ask you this

do you think i know the answer to that

question definitively

so here's your new question i'll wait

i'll wait for you to be done answering

this because there's lag here

do you think that i know the answer to

the question

of whether the cia is also

co-opting

individual voices who are not part of

legacy news

because i would be one of those people

right so if they had never contacted me

well let me ask you this do you think

any intelligence agencies have tried to

co-opt me

and your comments have any intelligence

agencies us or other

tried to co-opt me

on politics

yeah of course

yes

the answer is yes

have they succeeded

have they succeeded

in

co-opting me

i'm looking at your answers you say no

no no

no

well you're wrong

hate to tell you

they've co-opted me

now when i say they've co-opted me that

doesn't mean that i'm you know saying

anything that i wouldn't normally say

but

one of the things that is the subtle way

that people like me get influenced

is by what stories we see

and which ones are brought to our

attention so when i talk about the news

i talk about the things that have come

to my attention how does stuff come to

my attention

what do you think is my process

for deciding what stories to focus on

no scott did not just admit to being a

sellout listen to the rest of the

story

right

i'm i'm open to hearing your uh your

opinions after you've heard it

but maybe maybe wait till after after

you've heard it and then make your

decision okay

all right

so here's how people like me

decide what the news we're going to talk

about is

often people send me stuff

people you know you can see it yourself

you can watch it in real time you see

people tweet things at me

and then i say oh that's interesting and

then i talk about it

do you think

that anybody is tweeting at me

things they would like me to spend more

time on

who may or may not be associated with

intelligence agencies

so that's the model how many think that

that's happening

that there are people associated with

maybe not on the payroll i'm not talking

people i'm not talking actual spies

i'm talking people associated with

because you know intelligence agencies

don't work with just people they pay

they they have an extended family of you

know connections that do things for them

so

i would say

that i'm not necessarily aware of who

works for who

well i can say that for sure i am not

necessarily aware of who works for who i

have some ideas

i have some ideas if somebody sends me a

story that seems to be pro-israel

do i say to myself oh

i wonder who this person is

and i wonder if they have any

connections with you know israel

intelligence or or the government

and i often assume they do

but

if the story is what i like

and it's been brought to my attention

yeah i'll talk about it because it's

something i like and it's in my

wheelhouse and it's what i would have

talked about anyway and i know about it

so i talk about it

so it works

the the way that somebody like me can be

influenced is just by what stories i

talk about

so i believe that um some number of

stories that get sent to me through a

variety of channels you know usually

individuals who say hey i think you'd be

interested in this

some number of them are

intelligence agency connected

now some of them i know

meaning i know they're connected and

some of them i assume they're connected

so i use that filter when i see stuff

so you know

there's no time when i don't say to

myself

why did somebody give this to me right

so at the very least i'm aware of it

and i try to do what i can to you know

monitor my own bias but can i succeed at

that i don't think so i don't think you

can completely succeed at that i'm not

i'm not talking about any one person

yeah there's a universe of you know

maybe

20 to 50 people who might send me things

on any given topic and i just assume

that there they have some connections or

uh

or some

say affinity for

different countries

all right um

are there any major media outlets that

are captured by our cia

what do you think

are there any major media companies

that are not captured by the cia

do you think

and what would it be somebody says cnn

okay that i hope that's a joke right

because

cnn would not be on the top of my list

of non-captured entities

yeah you know i don't know i don't know

the answer to that because it's it's

always a matter of degree right

it's not so much that

you know some something is completely

captured and something is not i think

it's all a matter of degree

yeah and i would say that the

independent political voices such as

myself

i think we're trying to be independent

for the most part i mean i speak for

myself

but we have to be influenced i mean

you can't turn off influence

if somebody tries to influence you

they're and they're good at it

it's probably gonna work

my friends with bob dole that is the

weirdest question in the world i've

never met bob dole

but how weird

all right black lives matter blm is

threatening an uprising against

what they call the racist vaccine

mandates

did you see that coming the racist

vaccine mandates

because i guess since

the black population has low vaccination

rates

it would be

bigger burden on them if vaccination

mandates are required

blm might actually go to the streets

about that

but here's the

here's the weird thing

um

can black lives matter agree with the

republicans this aggressively

and what happens if they do

what would happen if just i'm just going

to put this out here

this could actually happen

imagine a black lives

matter rally against vaccine mandates so

just imagine that happens

and then imagine that conservatives

say we're in

we're in

and there are just as many conservatives

that show up clearly conservatives like

you could just look at them and go okay

that's

probably a trump supporter there

and watch them uh march at the same time

with black lives matter because they

have a shared

a shared idea on this one topic could

that happen

could it

why wouldn't it happen what would stop

it from happening

would anything stop it from happening

in fact i would say that the main reason

that black lives matter will not

go to the streets

is that republicans will join them

right

it's the main reason

i don't think it's going to happen

because the black lives matter their

whole uh

the whole deal kind of falls apart

if they go to the street

and 5 000 uh conservatives join them

and just say we're with you

boom we're with you that's it

no arguments

no fighting

we're with you

now

i'm not sure this is the fight that i

would recommend anybody be in that's a

separate topic

but it could be could be could be

strange bedfellows

and i would tell you that the next thing

that black lives matter and

conservatives

might agree on is school choice

and the problems with the teachers

unions

again there's pretty much complete

agreement

that we need more school choice it's a

conservative thing and it's

it's a

it's a black interest thing

right both would benefit

maybe in different ways but both would

benefit from that kind of a

change to society

i could see them i could see them get

getting together twice

and the way to do it is to just say that

reparations means fixing schools

it's the best you can do i mean some

people would like reparations to be some

kind of cash payment but since that's

never going to happen

i don't think

why don't you do what you can do

what you can do is fix the biggest

source of systemic racism

which is the teachers unions and the

republicans would be all over that

so black lives matter and republicans

maybe haven't figured it out yet but

they're on the same side on the biggest

issue which you could call reparations

you could call a systemic racism

that's what you know black lives matters

would call it but the republicans would

call it

where is my freedom

why can't i go to a school i want to go

to or take my kids to

an optional better

school

so they'd have different reasons for why

they want school choice but both of them

would be getting a better school

right i mean i guess it's the same

reason in the end better school but you

would describe it differently in terms

of why you want better schools

i don't know we might be

i've been predicting for some time that

there would be a strange coming together

of black lives matter and conservatives

that

it was almost inevitable

i feel like i feel like it's inevitable

that

the black population in this country is

going to start courting conservatives

partly because they agree on so much

you've got a

at the very least there's a religious

connection right

you know highly religious black

population pretty religious

republicans very religious

there's a lot they could come together

on

and i feel like it's going to happen

because it's you know as soon as black

lives matter realizes that republicans

are not against them

or let's say not against black people

but rather

pro-freedom

and pro-competition and all those things

i think i think

they can figure it out they can get

together so i'm going to keep that that

will be my most counter-intuitive

prediction of all time although i got a

few good ones lately

i'm going to say that black lives matter

will explicitly

so i'm going to i'm going to put this in

the form of a prediction

black lives matter

will explicitly

join forces with republicans on at least

one topic

maybe more because if the first one

works you would do more

but but there'll be at least one topic

where they i'll go even further i'm

going to make it physical

here's my prediction

black lives matter and conservatives

will march together in the street

within two years

that's my prediction within two years

republicans and black lives matter will

march march together on some topic

within two years all

right um the debate over nuclear energy

has officially ended

does that even sound possible

the debate over nuclear energy

it just ended

so uh jennifer uh

granholm who's the secretary of uh

energy right

um she just gave a big speech and made

it as clear as you could possibly make

it climate change is an emergency this

is her framing

and

you can't handle it without nuclear

and that nuclear energy is now

safer

and the new technologies are safe

compared to other things

and and you don't need fusion for this

fusion would be great but it's not

necessary in this model

now

here's the weird part of the story

don't know if you remember how much i

was trying to get the trump

administration to say as strongly as

jennifer grenholm did that nuclear power

has to be in the future it has to be a

big part of the future

and

the the trump administration was always

pro-nuclear

and they did a lot of pro-nuclear things

in terms of setting up

test sites for nuclear technologies et

cetera

so they acted

right the trump administration but they

didn't really make a big deal about it

trump himself

hardly ever mentioned it and certainly

never made a big point of it it was

usually just sort of mentioned in a list

but

imagine if you will

that trump had been pro-nuclear like

a big deal as much as he was

um build the wall

imagine if trump had been nuclear

nuclear nuclear you got to build some

nuclear

that would have made it impossible for

democrats to do it

wouldn't it it would be like the wall

the democrats can't accept a wall even

though they want one

because it was trump's wall am i right

don't you think there are a lot of

democrats who'd kind of like to have a

wall now

not so much that they stop everybody

from coming in

but at least we have the option

of you know regulating it the way we

want to regulate it not the way some

entity wants to regulate it

so i feel as if

we got to this uh complete agreement and

i'm going to say complete agreement

meaning that democrats and republicans

are both

strongly pro-nuclear now at least at the

higher levels

so i'll call that the agreement there's

obviously citizens will take a while to

catch up

but

um

this is amazing and i don't think it

would have happened if trump had been

way way way more pro-nuclear i think

the only way this could happen is that

trump was kind of quiet about it

right because it's not that it's not

that polarized and it could have been

um

so here's my question to you

how did this happen

what happened

what happened in the last

say five years

that made nuclear energy go from a

highly polarizing topic

to

complete agreement what happened

what do you think happened

um i'm just looking at your

schellenberger right

i think that's what happened

i think michael schellenberger

is a big part of the story but we'll

never know how much so let me let me

complete the pieces here

so many of you know that mark schneider

was a big advocate of

nuclear worked in the industry still

works in the industry i think and

um

and he taught me everything i know and i

i would talk

continuously about

nuclear being needing to be a bigger

deal

now also michael sheldenberger who's

written books on the topic and included

you know it's in books on the topic

and he's testified to congress twice i

think

at least twice

and if you haven't heard the the michael

schellenberger presentations on all this

green energy stuff and nuclear you

really have to

because he's got the whole package right

he's got the whole persuasion package

and

i think he sold it to congress

i mean they called him in for that

purpose to find out

you know

find out what's what

now i see you mentioning bjorn lomborg

and he would be the other you know

biggest name that i can think of

in the same category but i don't know if

he testified did he ever testify to

congress

because he's not american

i don't know if he did

i doubt it i don't i think i would have

remembered hearing it

anyway um

so i'm gonna say congratulations to the

people who put in the time

um i feel like i tried to help as much

as possible

i don't know if i did

but tried

and

um it looks like it happened

i mean was there any five years ago if i

said to you if i said to you five years

ago i think we'll have a complete

agreement on this nuclear energy thing

would you believe that

i mean it seemed like if something was

just going to be a permanent division

now like i said the public still hasn't

caught up but the fact that both

republicans and democrats are

pro-nuclear now

that's the end of the debate because the

public will catch up

yeah somebody says honestly it wasn't

even on your radar yeah that's true all

right uh fox news uh and i'm gonna give

them credit for this i don't know if

they came up with it but do you remember

when uh kids in cages was the big story

that kids in cages story was really

powerful wasn't it

because it wasn't just oh immigration is

going to be really bad for a lot of

people

that doesn't feel it's not visual

doesn't hit you in the in the fields

but then you say

we're putting kids in cages

now was that true

well you know sort of

they were fenced in areas

um calling them cages makes it ten times

worse how it sounds

so yeah it was true-ish

ish you know you you could make the

argument but it was so visual meaning

that you would not only see the pictures

of it some of the pictures were fake but

you still remember them

but you'd have a in your mind a perfect

picture of it so that's what made it so

devastatingly uh effective

and now fox news and and the right has

come up with their response to kids in

cages

it's called haitians under a bridge

haitians under a bridge do you know how

much the under the bridge part adds to

the story

a lot

same as the cages

it's not just kids and it's not just

haitians it's kids in cages

and it's haitians under a bridge

because as soon as you add the under a

bridge

the movie is complete right

you don't need all the details you just

see a massive humanity under a bridge

and you can see it

it's it's the so here's your persuasion

lesson for the day

adding the under a bridge

really sells this story

just like adding in cages sold the story

before

so once you see a play that works for

once one team

you can pretty much depend on the other

team giving that technique a try

and and here it's happening and it's

working

it looks like it's

you know it captures our imagination in

a very similar way i mean kids is

obviously

uh you know the ultimate if you could do

something about a story where kids are

being injured

that's your ultimate persuasion

but

haitians have something going for them

too don't they

what the haitians have going for them is

that they're black

and in this country if there's a story

about a massive uh group of black people

being mistreated that's a damn big story

right because you got

you know kids in cages

haitians

you know black people under being forced

to live under bridges horrible

conditions it does add that extra spice

to the story

and not in a good way but it does

so anyway good uh good persuasion play

from the right whoever came up with that

uh i tweeted a

story for you to debunk there's some

claim

i'm not i won't even tell you who it is

but there there's a tweet and a tweet

thread

claiming that india beat the delta

variant when they uh

introduced ivermectin and there's it

comes complete with graphs that i don't

believe etc so i asked my skeptics to

debunk that

i think it'll be debunked by the time

we're done here i haven't checked the

comments yet but

it looked really persuasive

if you had only seen the claim

you absolutely would be convinced if

you've never seen any pushback on it it

looks very convincing there's a graph

and it shows that the time that

ivermectin was put into place and then

the graph falls and then you compare it

to the united states and the you know

other countries and we're just going up

but allegedly i don't know if any of

this is true

but allegedly india went up and then

ivermectin and it went way down

did that really happen

because it's a it's an outrageously

specific claim

with stuff that could all be checked

publicly

now i don't have the time to check it

that's why i was asking other people to

look at it

but

somebody says curry i don't think so

um

anyway so i'll just put that out there

that i don't think there's anything true

to that story

but i'd love to be wrong that would be

fun

what did uh

oh ivormectin sounds good until you

listen to the z dog yeah

um

all right so i'm going to call that b

that story bs that india beat the delta

with ivermectin i don't think that's

true but i'll let the skeptics tear that

apart

um the new story about hunter biden i

guess business insider has this breaking

news

uh allegedly hunter biden asked there's

some new emails

of hunter biden that have been

discovered

not from the laptop

so they're hunter biden emails allegedly

but not from the laptop

so you have to wonder if they're real

that's the first question

all right

apparently uh hunter biden asked for a

retainer of two billion dollars per year

plus a success fee

because two million a year not enough

you also need a success fee to help

unfreeze money belonging to the libyan

government

this was in 2015 while his father was

still vice president

what

what

am i really really is this real and now

it's breaking news so like most news you

should say to yourself maybe it's not

real

you know it could be a fake email that

somebody got or something

but what if this is real

if this is real how is hunter biden

going to unfreeze libyan money

with all of his

libyan unfreezing money connections that

he personally had not through his father

who was vice president of the united

states there's no conceivable way

that he could have gotten this job done

without his father

is there

or dealing with people who want to make

his father happy but it's the same thing

so

here's what's going to happen

i feel like

nothing

i feel like this story will come out

we will believe it is true

and nothing will happen

right doesn't it feel like nothing's

going to happen

because this is clearly a crime

isn't it or if it's not a crime

it's something terrible

uh now apparently the the project didn't

go forward so maybe that gives them an

out because it didn't happen it was just

an offer

but

oh my god

oh my god

if this is true

oh my god

i mean it's as bad as the other stuff

we've already heard but it's additive to

that

rico interesting

i'm seeing in the comments uh there

could be a ricoh case i don't know could

there i don't know anything about that

stuff

so

but

but to the point that it would be an

organized conspiracy

i know i wouldn't rule it out

all right uh tucker carlson being uh

provocative

being provocative again

i'm gonna tell you what he said and then

i'll give you my comments on it

um so he quoted joe biden in uh

22

in 2015 i guess or so made this comments

so joe biden said somewhere

quote an unrelenting stream of

immigration nonstop non-stop

folks like me who are caucasian of

european descent for the first time in

2017 will be an absolute minority in the

united states of america absolute

minority

fewer than 50 percent of the people in

america from then on will be white

european stock

that's not a bad thing

that's a source of our strength

all right so the key words here are that

biden says

that having lots of immigration and

making the united states not majority

white european

is quote not a bad thing

and quote a source of our strength

so to that

tucker says he goes that's the reason

to reduce the political power of people

so this is tucker's commentary

that biden has admitted

that it's to reduce the political power

of people whose ancestors lived here

and dramatically increased the

proportion of americans newly arrived

from the third world

and then tucker said that biden went

further and said that non-white dna is a

source of our strength

did that happen

did biden say that non-white dna is the

source of our strength

did you hear that in the quote

right so that's that's tucker's summary

that biden said that non-white dna is

the source of our strength

let me read his exact quote again biden

said

that we'll be no longer a majority white

european

and he said that's not a bad thing

that's the source of our strength

all right so i'm seeing in the comments

most people say yeah you said it right

there

there's the quote there's tucker's

interpretation that interpretation is

correct

right

i'm saying only yeses to that

it's right here

so tucker's interpretation is accurate

right because i read you the quote i

read you the interpretation and you're

saying yeah that's it oh wait now i'm

seeing some nose

where did all the nose come from all of

a sudden

did you think i was tricking you

now it's all nose i'm seeing in the

comments

nope

no biden did not say what tucker says he

says

uh my interpretation of what biden said

when he when he said that's not a bad

thing that's the source of our strength

who's us who's our who's our strength

the united states right

so can you say that um

moving from a majority white european

stock to a more diverse

mix would be the argument that that

makes us stronger

so tucker's interpretation seems to be

that it brings in better dna

the brown people have better dna than

the white people who are already there

i will think that's what that's saying

i don't think that's what biden's saying

to me it looks like biden is saying that

what makes the united states great

is that we're diverse

now do you think that diversity has ever

helped the united states

well

it certainly helped when we got those

german scientists after world war ii

i don't know if you want to call that

diverse

but

i don't know how many other nazis or

nazi

you know sympathizers or workers or

anything well i wouldn't call them

sympathizers but i don't know how many

people from the nazi regime we brought

to the united states but it helped

didn't it there's a little diversity

that helped

that's a weird example i know

but

do you buy the argument

that diversity is an advantage

see that's the area

tucker took it in a different direction

with dna i don't think that was ever the

intention i think it was just diversity

diversity

well

i'm i'm going to give you the counter

argument i'm seeing lots of people say

no

here's

here's the frame i'd put on it what is

it about the united states

that made it work

right well a lot of things we had lots

of natural resources and stuff like that

we didn't have a world war ii on our on

our

shores so there were lots of things that

made the united states work and some of

it was luck

but

i would argue that the biggest thing

that makes it work

is how people got here

meaning that the people who said

to heck with this country i'm in i'm

going to go make something happen

somewhere else

don't you think that that is a really

selective group

suppose you suppose you started with the

population of the world

you said all right i'm just going to put

all the people who have the the

following qualities

in one country

those will be the people who couldn't

stand the country they were in

because it wasn't free enough

didn't give them enough options

and they were going to take a tremendous

risk to get out of there and improve

their life

right so that's the group that you

filtered people who will take a big risk

succeed because they don't get to this

country unless they succeed

succeed as something really really hard

because the long-term advantage will be

good

how many of those do you want in your

country

how many people with that quality

we're not talking about where they came

from any culture

doesn't matter the culture

wherever they came from

they took a gigantic risk to get here

pulled it off

made it work

and they were planning for the distant

future they weren't planning for what

was happening today

they were planning years in advance so

their mindset was years in advance

hard work

risk

and freedom

and we got all of them

well we didn't get all of them but but

that's basically what makes up the

united states

right

now i would argue

that any time that yeah brave brave

right risk takers

i would argue that anytime you take the

best of every culture

those are the best

right

in my opinion

the people who can make that work and

are thinking so far in advance

that they're thinking generations in

advance literally they're thinking their

children and grandchildren that's why

they come here

i would think that if you took those

people out of every country and put them

in one country

that country would rule the world

every time

so

in order for that to work

picking i'm gonna say they're the best

people from each culture

if you take the best people from each

culture the ones who have that quality

about them

that doesn't make you stronger

remember all the no's you had and

everybody said no no no there's no way

diversity makes us stronger

but i just gave you an argument

where where we got the best

of all the diverse cultures because

they're the only ones who could get here

the ones who weren't the best couldn't

get here

they didn't they they were just going to

take care of what was happening right in

front of them they were not long-term

planners they weren't willing to take a

risk they couldn't figure it out

well that's the argument

so

they only want free stuff

um i i think

i think there's certainly a number of

people who are not

you know the cream of the crop

you know that i mean

everybody's different so you're not

going to get only the cream of the crop

but i think on average you're bringing

in the good people and you also need

people to do every other kind of job in

society

now here's another

another thing to think of

can the united states survive if our

birth rate falls

and what would happen to our natural

birth rate if we didn't have massive

immigration i'm not in fa i'm not in

favor of massive immigration

i'm just asking the question

what would happen to our birth rate

if we didn't have massive immigration

it wouldn't sustain the country it's a

problem

we actually need young people

economically

it's a requirement

where were they going to come from

we weren't going to have them

i mean i suppose we could have done some

massive

persuasion to get americans you know who

are already here to have more babies

i don't know that that would work

i feel as if the one and only way that

you can

be economically viable is to bring in

young people if you're not making young

people you have to bring them in and

bring in populations that have more more

babies

now

am i arguing therefore that we should

open the borders and just let everybody

in now

that's crazy

the way we're doing it now

crazy it's all wrong

what i'm arguing and i've always argued

is you need a totally secure border

and then you can decide based on

economics

based on economics

how many to let in in any given

any given year and maybe what types of

people led in

so i think you have to control it

but you gotta you gotta let in a good

number of people i don't know what the

right number is but you almost have to

take immigration and you've got to treat

it pretty seriously

um i can't argue what the absolute

number should be

because

i mean that would take a lot of research

and i'm not even sure you could ever

know that

but i do know you need a lot of it

we may have twice as much as we need

right now

but you need a lot of it

and if you don't have it you're dead

did i make my case

uh with just the argument i gave

that we're really

at least and for the most part we're

trying to pick off the risk takers and

the and the higher quality people from

each

every country that can get here

no

all right so uh as per typical very

rarely do people change their minds

nope nope nope i'm saying lots of no's

what would be your argument

what would be your argument against

the notion that we're

filtering in the right kind of risk

takers and the people who think ahead

that's not who's coming rich guy no i'm

i'm completely aware that there are tons

and tons of

you know just workers coming in because

they heard

they heard the crowd was moving north

and they just got in the line so clearly

there could be tons of people who are

not the cream of the crop i'm not

claiming that

what i am claiming is that we're getting

enough

of the cream of the crop you know the

risk takers

that

we come out ahead

that would be the argument you come out

ahead

even though you bring in a lot of common

laborers who were maybe just going to

break even

economically

you don't need that many superstars

right to start a billion dollar company

etc

yes legal immigration yes

if i didn't say that explicitly i only

favor legal immigration

so i certainly don't favor whatever's

happening now

um diversity of appearance means nothing

if people are thinking the same

well i'm saying that we don't want

diversity

in one way

there's one kind of diversity you don't

want

which is you don't want people who don't

want to be successful

you want the kind of diversity where

it's all kinds of people but they want

to make the world a better place

like that's the diversity you want you

don't want diversity of thought

because like some of them are terrorists

some of them don't want to work

some of them just want you to take care

of them i don't want that diversity

that's the diversity of thought i don't

want at all

i want i want people who have some some

shared notion of the united states and

what success looks like and they want it

that's who i want yeah i get more of

those

anyway i don't think

tucker's uh interpretation of it was

quite spot-on

but very provocative

as he always is

different cultures have different

thoughts

true enough but i do think that the

united states attracts people who have

um on average

compatible notions with freedom and

capitalism

um

i never met an illegal immigrant that

didn't want to get money to take back

home

so

what's wrong with that

what is wrong with that

i mean the the money that they send back

home is what keeps everybody home

if they weren't sending money back home

those people would be coming here too

so i'm not sure that's the negative you

think it is

um just looking at some of your comments

um

you're dreaming if you let me just read

this so hard as they're going by if you

think that getting risk takers who are

going to help grow our comedy

we're seeing people because they're

motivated by the takers

um all right so the point here would be

that

uh the people coming here for free stuff

are the the dominant

thing

maybe

um but would it matter to my point

let's say my point was that we're

bringing the cream of the crop

but you say to me scott scott scott you

might be getting 10 percent like that

but 90 are just people coming here for

free stuff

do you think those immigrants don't want

to work

how many do you think the immigrants

came here for free stuff and and didn't

think they were going to work hard

i feel like zero

we're getting the people who want to

work

more than americans want to work

now when you say free stuff i would just

say that it's a better life

i think they want to give and get also

i don't think they want to get without

working

i think they came here to work

do you really not think they came here

to work

and i think they came here to work under

a system that would reward them better

than the system they were in

what's wrong with that

that's what we all do

we're all doing that we're looking for

the better system that treats us better

for the same amount of work

do you hate him for that all right so

back to my point let's say we got 10 of

the people i'm describing like the

go-getters the risk takers the

entrepreneurs the people planning ahead

and you get 90 percent

of the people who just want to work hard

and have a better life

did you come out ahead or behind

that that's my scenario did you come out

ahead or behind you only got 10 percent

of the people who are awesome

like really think ahead entrepreneurs

going to make this country great

90 are just here because the crowd came

here because it's a better life but they

want to work hard

no doubt they want to work hard

come out ahead or behind

i said john says behind how do you know

are you an economist

i i've got a degree in economics and i

don't know

i feel if i had to guess

i'd say ahead but again it depends on

amount right there's some amount of

immigration that puts you behind there's

some amount that would put you ahead

i don't know where that cutoff point is

but we ought to find it

lyle says scott is surprised his

audience is overwhelmingly racist no i'm

not you think that surprised me

my view uh all people are racist so i

would expect all of my audiences to be

racist all the time no matter who i was

talking to

it's just a complete illusion that

they're non-racist

they're just people who think of it

different ways they communicate

different but the thing that makes

everybody racist is that your brain is a

pattern recognition device

you know your lawnmower can only be a

lawn mower your dishwasher can only be a

dishwasher dishwasher can't mow the lawn

lawnmower can't clean your dishes

all right your brain is just one thing

it's a pattern recognition machine it

can't be anything else

and the problem is that you're bad at

pattern recognition that's all you got

and if you're bad at pattern recognition

as we all are we're all fooled by the

wrong patterns then you end up thinking

well those elbonians they always wear

hats and

you know and eat bananas and

fall on their faces

because you saw three albonians like

that

so of course you're a racist

you cannot be

because your brain is just oriented that

way

now you can use your higher level

thinking to get past it that would be

awesome

but you're starting as a racist

so is my audience racist yeah because

they're humans yeah of course they are

all right that's all for now and i'll

see